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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 50 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

What pisses me off it that they say they do this for security. It changes absolutely anything.

They really think that malware developers will say "oh no! I need to submit a picture of an id card to sign my malware! It's literally impossible to submit a jpg of a stolen id card, I'm ruined and out of a job!"

What does it change? Waste 20 minutes of some malware developer while they register under a stolen id? They already have a system that scans for known malware and automatically remove it.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Thing is, Play Store is already filled with malware or near-malware from seemingly verified developers. I ran into several scam clone apps just today. It's even snuck in through OEM apps.

Same on iOS, which supposedly verifies devs.

If 'verification' and curation is their idea of security, well... It appears their system is already overloaded, yet they want to expand it?

[–] keegomatic@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Both things can be true. It definitely is better for security. It’s pretty much indisputably better for security.

But you know what would be even better for security? Not allowing any third-party code at all (i.e., no apps).

Obviously that’s too shitty and everyone would move off of that platform. There’s a balance that must be struck between user freedom and the general security of a worldwide network of sensitive devices.

Users should be allowed to do insecure things with their devices as long as they are (1) informed of the risks, (2) prevented from doing those things by accident if they are not informed, and (3) as long as their actions do not threaten the rest of the network.

Side-loading is perfectly reasonable under those conditions.

[–] fading_person@lemmy.zip 44 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It's always security when someone wants to take our freedom away. Always security...

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 25 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Not always. It can also be about the children.

[–] SpaceCadet@sopuli.xyz 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Not really, it’s more about children not being exposed to things usually. Hence starting with age requirements for porn and they move forward to other things.

[–] SpaceCadet@sopuli.xyz 8 points 9 hours ago

"Protecting the children from harmful content and predators", "protecting people from terrorists and criminals", "protecting users from hackers" are all forms of security, and are all used as arguments to erode freedoms.

It all boils down to: just give up this bit of freedom so we can keep everyone safe.

[–] fading_person@lemmy.zip 12 points 13 hours ago

About keeping the children safe

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 8 points 13 hours ago

Of course they know that. It's about power and money. After all, they already have a security program that filters out malware. If we believe their stated reasoning (which we don't), they're tacitly admitting that their current security program is a complete failure, and also that they will not try to fix it.