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I don't include procreation, no matter how "healthy and proper" a relationship, on the same level as noticeable impact or becoming a part of recorded culture, nor even at the level of minor community improvement.
I'm a consequentialist, short term satisfaction or pleasures are of zero inherent value unless they aid in the production of longterm gains or advancements for all people.
It's almost like people expect medal for deciding not to use a condom.
Raising a kid done right is a societal gain/benefit and can help those societal advancements. No one here is asking for a medal but the entire point of empathy at large is a recognition that people experience and feel differently than you do about certain things. That includes children.
Not true. Even if you assume each and everyone with a professional or doctorate degree help further mankind, roughly 2.2% of the US population I don't have data for other nations, then you would still have to conclude that the amount of scarcity and damage done to climate and ecosystem is less than their marginal benefit for each individual person.
Another 16 children are being born every second globally at the moment, the world population is still rising and the consequences continue to get more and more extreme every single moment. The vast majority of those children are going to live and die as a net negative to the tune of >90%.
I think Empathy is the exact opposite of what you and anon are displaying. Empathy's root words mean "suffering together" while you ignore the suffering being caused, even self created suffering by judging yourselves negatively, and instead defend irrational instinctual behaviors.
Do you really believe only professionals and doctorates are societal benefits? Climate and environment is not a population problem but rather a capitalist problem of resource use/allocation. Replacement amounts of children (2) are one thing that is different than having like 5. There are societal problems with a lack of children which can be seen in Japan and will be seen in China as well as most western nations with low immigration.
The dictionary definition of empathy is : the action of understanding, being aware of, being sensitive to, and vicariously experiencing the feelings, thoughts, and experience of another.
You're just trying to force your own values without attempting to understand an opposing viewpoint. So yeah, you lack empathy.
Any more is just a circle at this point I'm out.
If you don't believe a communist (or other non-capitalist) country exists then you have to admit that it's a population problem.
If you do believe a communist (or other non-capitalist) country exists then you have to admit that it's a population problem in those countries as well.
The very clear and obvious fact of the matter is more people will pollute more, less people will pollute less.
Also, no, I don't think only doctorates advance society. I personally think a small subsection of doctorates actually do tangible permanent good with their lives, not all of them. Probably evens itself out with the much smaller percentage of non-intellectuals who also do lasting good.