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[–] DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The point was that self-hosting is not hard if you do it the right way. You claim it's very hard and requires specialized knowledge. I don't think it's much different than hosting in the cloud.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I didn't say it was "hard". I said it requires specialized knowledge. Which it does. And which you've not disproven in any way.

[–] DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Once could say it requires special knowledge to host a service in the cloud too. The extra step I had to take was to open port 80 and 433 on my server and install nginx to forward the traffic to the right container on my local network since I only have one public IP. It took me minimal research to figure it out.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You realize hosting on a VPS is still selfhosting? And my comment was about selfhosting?

[–] DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Sure, you could say that since you put the service on the VPS. But you don't own the server and host it on your own hardware. Which is what the person you replied to was talking about. Why would you even point out that hosting a service requires special knowledge if you find hosting in a VPS and at home equal?

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Sure, you could say that

Not "could". It is.

Why would you even point out

When you say "hosting in a cloud" vs selfhosting, I think you mean creating an account on a hosted service. Or using something like PikaPods or Fedihost or other managed hosting service. Because once again, hosting in a VPS is selfhosting.

[–] DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

When the majority of people talk about self-hosting they specifically talk about hosting a service on your own hardware. Not a rent on someone else's computer...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-hosting_(web_services)

https://www.openproject.org/blog/why-self-hosting-software/

Even Lenovo knows this shit...

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/glossary/self-hosting/

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Literally no one thinks that except you. Your own sources state as much.

[–] DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Whatever. You're not worth my time anymore. Keep getting scammed by cloud hosting if you want to. I will keep using my home server and spread the word about how easy it is to host a home server and how much of a scam a VPS is.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 5 hours ago

I don't use cloud hosting. But it's not a scam, there are a bunch of security measures that get implemented, and you're not creating a giant security hole in your home network, which greatly lowers the expertise required and risks involved.