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[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 minutes ago

Are any lemmy instances run on aws? Been getting a lot less articles last couple days

[–] cheers_queers@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 hours ago

even the websites for local health systems have been going down. At this point if we have an event like Y2K was supposed to be, we are so fucked lol

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

What are these random fucking websites though

Which is random? I’ve only not heard of three: Instructure, fanduel, and chime.

All the ones I’ve heard of are quite massive companies and I would assume the others are too.

[–] StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 5 points 12 hours ago

I mean those are giant websites and organizations that exist in the mainstream, instructure is used by most schools nowadays

[–] magnolia_mayhem@lemmy.world 23 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Hey! Great idea! Let's make all of the internet rely on one service from one evil company! What could go wrong?

[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

I think evil is too strong a word for Amazon, I think benzos is one of the nicer billionaires but I have heard the horror stories from Amazon warehouses.

Nice billionaire is an oxymoron.

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Amazon essentially killed local bookstores and then used the proceeds to become a massive megaconglomerate only challangeable by alphabet, apple, and meta in their sheer capability to control media flow.

They have spies in the form of Alexa enabled IOT devices basically everywhere. They also have the Ring camera. Recently they have stayed they will share data from Ring cameras with Palantir.

Amazon is insidious. Its evil is quiet in its spread.

The sheer size of Amazon, along with their business model, means they must employ vast swaths of people. In the US alone, over 1M people are employed by Amazon. Amazon plans to lay off half of them in the next 8 years while they shift to a robotic workforce.

These "too big to fail" companies are not evil out of some malaise for humanity. They are evil out of a cavalier disinterest in anything other than increasing the size of their hoards.

[–] grahamja@reddthat.com 4 points 12 hours ago

Typical Amazon undersells everyone else to remove competition. Then after everyone has gone under reminds you it is a terrible idea. Hopefully we see businesses get burnt more and determine it is better to self host, or even better yet not need half their services on "the cloud" anyways.

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

I am grateful that my past me (from few months ago) decided to study Slavic philology, instead of getting stupid tech job. I hate modern tech, including anything from big corporations.

I am also glad that I've switched to Linux (Debian ftw) to escape software enshittification.

[–] magnolia_mayhem@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It's not a full escape, just a path to escape.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 2 points 13 hours ago

I'd argue you cna never fully escape the problem of enshittification, unless you produce and maintain everything you use by yourself. Given how much of what we need today requires specialist labour and how impossible it is to be a specialist in everything, chances are you'd be trading enshittification for plain shit.

But using Debian at least shuts down one source of enshittification. Just because perfection can't ever fully be attained is no reason not to try and get as close as you can.

[–] thatonecoder@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

…and I did not even notice it, aside from the news here.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 7 points 23 hours ago

It really shows what a great life that we on the Fediverse are living, by making our tech independent to a degree from the largest tech providers.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago

Maybe it was a bad idea for society to put 90% of the internet on one company's infrastructure.

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 112 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's almost as if centralizing everything is fucking stupid.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 35 minutes ago

At my work there was a big push to get things out of our own isolated data centers and into AWS because we had some services that were really very vulnerable and not equipped to serve a global distributed audience well. AWS solved that problem for us and our devs liked working with it. However now our AWS bill is so high that we’re pushing everyone to reduce it. I guess that makes sense. We’re not going back to self-hosting, just optimizing and reducing. But it sure feels like whiplash from “get everything into AWS” to “we have too much in AWS.”

[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But the bean counters said it was the best idea!

[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 4 points 22 hours ago

Accountants shouldn’t be allowed to make decisions beyond their personal lives. MBAs even more so

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 136 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Amazon sneezes, the whole internet catches a cold.

Im still seeing services up/down the entire day at work. Services that are not even AWS like Azure are slow for some reason (probably businesses failing over to other infa). Its crazy.

None of our in office infa is having issues. Managers are talking about fail-overs all day lol.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 80 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When a handful of people own all the companies in the world, the whole world becomes a single point of failure.

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[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (7 children)

There are some downstream / knock on effects going on which can be explained...but I can't help but wonder if today's story is bigger than just AWS. AWS saying it was an outage of a "few hours" for DynamoDB and DNS...and that doesn't line up all that great with what people are reporting in the wild . I'm not trying to start a conspiracy theory, just wondering what the post mortems will tell us, if anything. Obviously the suits want to keep embarrassing fuckups downplayed as much as possible.

[–] Carrot@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago

As someone with a little insider baseball knowledge, it was just a few hours down of DynamoDB and DNS. However, that caused EC2 to go down for ~1 day, which causes pretty much 1/3 of the internet to go down. Once EC2 sorts themselves out, then teams/companies (almost all amazon services use EC2 in the back end) that use EC2 have to get their ducks back in a row, and that can take any span of time, depending on how well their code was written to handle failures + how many people they are willing to pay oncall/overtime.

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[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago

Let's take a decentralized network and centalize it! Nothing will surely go wrong.

It's kind of telling when Amazon services like Ring, Prime Video, and Alexa failed over pretty quickly, but everything else just didnt.

There's no conspiracy here. It's just highlighting that Amazon could prepare for AWS outages in a region, but since everything auth related was on us-east-1, everything else went down.

Shortcuts are costly.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 74 points 1 day ago (4 children)

So Roblox is the only of those companies that can handle proper region failover if us-east-1 shits the bed? You young ops have gotten soft! Learn to live by ChaosMonkey or die by the Gorilla.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 50 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yeah, but proper failover and recovery requires additional infrastructure, and that costs money.

Hopefully a bunch of risk management people are writing I-told-you-so emails to C-suites right now.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah but not to worry, C-suites have pretty good filtering rules in place to never read them. Saves time, really.

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 24 points 1 day ago

So Roblox is the only of those companies that can handle proper region failover if us-east-1 shits the bed?

Either that, or the reports stopped coming in since it's a school day.

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[–] darvocet@infosec.pub 64 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Jesus Amazon is a big enough company they should be doing their own hosting not using AWS.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're big enough to be a utility and be nationalized!

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[–] atmorous@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Time for open source Amazon app alternatives to be made. Made a post on OpenSource with suggestions on how to do it and how it can help open source communities: KDE, GNU/Linux, etc can each make their own and use their profits for their own and other open source projects. A passive income if you will from making, and managing the app that displays products from various partnered stores and websites

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

For some context, the issue was affecting AWS or Amazon Web Services, which is hosting for those other services (or parts of them), not an amazon app issue cascading to other services.

And I don't think an open source amazon app would work. Amazon is a lot more than just a webstore. They've got a massive logistics network plus warehouses and packing plants. I feel like an open source version of amazon's store would end up avoiding the corporate shit but would have all the negatives of amazon store without many of the positives.

[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 28 points 1 day ago (4 children)
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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why does Amazon use AWS?

I thought they had an in-house solution.

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