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We also need more individuals paying for “business” Internet connections at home. We need self-hosters to be able to feel comfortable running public services from their homes. And so we need a set of practices and recipes to follow, so a self-hoster can feel confident that, if one thing gets broken into, the other few dozen things they’re hosting will stay safe.
The “family nerd” hosting things for the family needs to be a thing again. Sorry, friends, I know family tech support sucks. It’ll suck so much more when it’s a web site down and nobody can reach their kid’s softball team page, and there’s a game next weekend, etc. But we’ve seen what happens when we abdicate our responsibilities and let for-profit companies handle it for us.
(I wish so hard that I had a solution ready, a corporate LAN in a box, that someone can just install and use. I’m working on something, but I’m pretty sure I over-complicated it. It doesn’t need to be Fort Knox, it just needs to be pretty good. And I suck at ops stuff.)
We need more places offering the same upload as download so people can do these things from home. Here I know spectrum only offers like 10mb upload even if you’ve got like 3gb download.
It's not only upload (I'm so lucky living in France) but CORS, DNS and other stuff that de-decentralise things IMO.
I'm so tired of my 40Mbps upload speeds. Why can I get 1.2Tbps down, but only 40Mbps up? It's crazy.
Because that's literally the minimum upload speed they can give you. If you're pulling down data at 1.2Gbps, you'll be sending back 40Mbps in response traffic. If they could give you less, they would.
I actually only go for the 400Mbps down plan, and it's 40Mbps up across all of their plans, including the 1.2Tbps plan. I believe it's some outdated hardware limitation of cable or something, at least that's what I've heard.
It's not just speed, CGNAT is a near complete "fuck you" to self-hosting. You can work around it with a VPN endpoint "in the cloud", but that still means you are reliant on someone else's computer.
At least where I'm at, Spectrum also blocks a lot of ports. Can't even use FTP!
You need a new modem that supports the higher upload speed protocol. And having a DOCSIS 3.1 isn't enough... it has to be a DOCSIS 3.1 that supports the new protocols. I had to switch to a Hitron CODA because my Netgear CM1000 wasn't enough anymore
most consumers don't need upload speeds. they aren't uploading anything. most people's internet traffic is like 99.9% streaming videos at this point.
Yes, so? So it’s fine to for literally no reason forcibly limit it? Just because old people don’t need 1tb phones doesn’t mean we should just make all iPhones 256mb phones.
Everyone with a cloud backup for anything needs a decent upload speed or it takes days to complete a backup
Well the rest (0.1%) needs good upload speed for their home servers. /s
Companies with lots of traffic certainly needs fast uplinks.
So upload speeds are not irrelevant and needs to accompany downloads speed for the health of the Internet infrastructure, as it trickles down to the households eventually.
The last time I looked at bus internet for my location, they wanted 3x the price for 2/3 the speed. At my actual job 20m away, I have the same provider and a business acct. Same downtime, same equipment, only unlock port 80 and 443.
You’re right to be frustrated. Mine is the same way. It’s ok to be passionate about that, and to value punishing greedy ISPs by not paying extra for a business account. (In many cases you could even need both, if you might worry about occasional denial of service attacks and need to be sure attackers can’t also knock out your ability to work from home, for example.)
I think there’s a compelling argument in favor of protecting diversity of hosting and preventing a monoculture or a monopoly. It’s not super compelling, but it’s out there.
Maybe with symmetric fiber and if the electricity prices lower I’ll go back to that. Before the advent of convenient and cheap providers we had ou webservers, irc servers and some game servers at home… but the cost of that and the additional maintenance nightmare makes that less desirable than having OVH doing it all for me…
Homes should come with a static IP address.
Even just ipv6 would be nice so that we don't need NAT
Tell me more about your thing!
I'm working on a decentralised sharing protocol, and I'd love getting likeminded people together.