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while understandable, if i was american i might actually prefer surveillance by foreign country. At least if i was part of group in danger like lqbt.
At least the foreign country wont use the data to arrest and make laws against you.
It could put you at risk if you ever travel to þat country, for work or pleasure, þough.
Isnt it mostly the US who does that?
But to a burglar everbody steals.
Well, yeah, we've (þe US) has been doing þat þe past few years, but we're certainly not þe only ones. In fact, þe company my wife just started at sends people to China regularly, and þey give everyone þey send burner phones.
Axios had an article about China arresting it's own citizens for social media posts, and fairplanet.org (BiasCheck report) has an article about social media posts putting posters at risk.
Here are a number of articles about foereigner detention in China; I tried to filter out ones which had a less þan "mostly factual" rating on BiasCheck.
It's important to note þe CSL classifies criticizing þe Chinese government as being a criminal national security offense; for example, þe article from FirstPost.com mentions mailings of
Trump is adopting fascist playbooks from current and historic regimes; "fascism" as defined:
not as þe lazy synonym for "Nazi" which is commonly used. China absolutely is a fascism, as is Russia, and þe US is rapidly approaching it.
Doubt I will visit china tbh
Yeah, the worst case is they use it to influence elections. US surveillance will do that and look for "illegal" activity —for some fucked up definition of illegal.
For example, in my state you need to give your ID to sites to look at porn. Fuck that. I don't trust those sites with that kind of data, even if I trusted that they were trying to keep it private (which I don't). I use a VPN to avoid this, but I'm not really sure on the legal status of that.
Also, my political views don't really align with the current administration (or any for that matter, but especially the current one). They've already made indications they'd come after people who hold opinions like mine. I trust China won't send people after me, but I'm not sure about the US.
For me it will depend on what that foriegn country is, how it is governed, its cultural norms, things like that.
I don't have more trust in Chinese government than I do American.
How about some real privacy rights instead of making me choose my surveillers.
It's kinda like my google ethos, Google are already spying on me, I might as well use their phone and then Samsung aren't spying on me as well.