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[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"A graphene device" doesn't exist. GrapheneOS must be installed after purchasing a compatible device (Currently the Pixel line, but soon to be expanded to another manufacturer).

[–] planish@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can buy a phone that arrives running GrapheneOS. This might not be advisable, because it adds another point of trust in the refurbisher who actually does the flashing, but you don't need to have the skills or do the research to install it yourself to get access to a device that runs it.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

Yes, but that is incredibly risky and I would argue a worse proposition for one's personal data than buying an Android device or iPhone direct from manufacturer. You don't know if any of the underlying system software components are compromised from a reseller. If you bought a used Pixel, reformatted the storage, and installed GrapheneOS fresh, you can be confident that the OS is untampered.

I would go as far as to say buying a preinstalled device would never be a good idea for any individual looking to use GrapheneOS. The tutorial for the installation is confined to a single webpage. People should learn to read the instructions and use the validation tools on GrapheneOS's site.