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Just had a conversation about this. I'll copypasta what I said there.
https://d-shoot.net/kagi.html
tl;dr: they’re all in on AI (their own model, FastGPT, which is terrible), they make some very questionable business decisions with limited funds, and have a poor understanding of what Personally Identifiable Information (PII) actually is.
I could compromise on some of these things, but if I’m going to pay for their service as a Google alternative, I need to compromise less than I do with Google already.
Thanks for sharing this, very informative read. I might have to go through that Cohost article when I have a spare hour haha
Also DDG is a perfectly viable option.
Appreciate you linking in your blog post. I've been on the fence about Kagi and you bring up a lot of good points informed by sources I'm unlikely to delve into.
To put you back on the fence, it had the best algorithm when I tested it some time ago. It showed me things I wanted by default. Google always needs some massaging and ddg needs a !g
Agreed. I pay for Kagi, and find their search better than any other, and struggle when I'm forced to use another search engine temporarily.
Dammit, my fence picket didn't even get cold!
Yeah no im with the above user on this one. I have used kagi for over a year now and have never needed to use another search engine to find something
Same here.
Finding actual answers or at least able to point me in the right direction is way better than any of the other search engines I’ve tried.
DDG, Google, Bing, SearchNX, Ecosia, Brave, and probably some more, they just aren’t even in the same ball field for the things I look up personally.
I've been using Ecosia for a few months now and sadly I'm not having the best experience either. For mainstream stuff it gives good results, but once I search for obscure phrases or god forbid another language, it often just completely gives up and doesn't show a single result. It pains me to say that I more reliably get usable results from Google's Web search (so with the AI crap removed) than from Ecosia with Google set as its results provider.