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If you ever tried the infamous "Update and shut down" option in any Windows build, it often leads to a reboot instead to an actual shutdown. Now, Microsoft has finally fixed this issue starting with Windows 11 25H2 Build 26200.7019 (or 26100.7019 on 24H2). According to the Windows Latest, Microsoft has shipped this broken functionality way back with Windows 10, and has never fixed it since. However, the Windows teams working behind the update have finally managed to ship a working solution with a note stating in Windows 11 experiences that the new build: "Addressed underlying issue which can cause "Update and shutdown" to not actually shut down your PC after updating."

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[–] Naich@lemmings.world 84 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Great. Now can we have the option for a vertical task bar back?

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

Rotate your screen 90°

Edit your fonts so they are readable at 90°

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)
[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

My first experience with kde was back in 2012 or so (plasma 4?) and at that moment it felt so advanced compared to win 7 or vista that going back to windows was painful.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

I don't think I'm using any really fancy KDE features I just like that I can bodge together whatever I want it to look like... which is basically windows with re-orderable applications, shoving most things I have in the background into the system tray, and jerking off furiously that I don't have to touch my phone because of KDE connect, but I think you can install it on non KDE systems, since most of the apps that start with K in package managers has some KDE affiliation, but run on any linux system regardless of KDE Plasma graphical shell or any alternative like GNOME or MATE

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Imagine using an operating system that you don’t have to labor away to escape advertisements and upselling after every update.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

true dat.

my statement was more you can do whatever you want in KDE

[–] Humanius@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, but it'll take them another ten years

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How about today's, random complete freeze. Had to hard reboot then spend 30 minutes watching it trying to "fix the issue". It then failed to find anything. So I had to force it to reboot to windows. Then it worked fine the rest of the day.

While it was down, I was working on my 11 year old, budget laptop running Mint.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 12 hours ago

The other day my windows 11 computer booted and was unable to find the sound driver. I hadn't done anything to it, it just randomly decided it couldn't find the driver for some reason, after restart it was fine, but what the hell.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 17 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Just for the sake of the anecdote, I just discovered that in KDE Plasma, you can put a taskbar anywhere you like, including vertically, resize it, and even rotate it at an arbitrary angle! it's pretty much useless... but you can

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

when you say resize it, do you mean after you go into the edit menu? I find it a bit frustrating that I can't resize it without going in there, but I usually don't have to anyway.

You can even have like...40 taskbars floating in the middle of the screen!

[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

I love the vertical task bar in KDE. It does exactly what I want it to, and that's so refreshing.

[–] original_reader@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Even just a top bar would be great.

How could the taskbar regress so badly?

Literally one of the reasons Windows boots so rarely on my devices.

[–] tordenflesk@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It baffles me how few people know that they can just replace the Explorer shell.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/configuration/shell-launcher/

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You could have vertical task bar in vanilla windows 10. They took it out in 11 because fuck you, presumably.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 days ago

They rewrote it and only implemented half the features. Just like the settings app and a bunch of other things. Because who ever cared about feature parity?

[–] Nelots@piefed.zip 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That baffles you? I'd be willing to bet that 99% of windows users don't even know what explorer.exe is.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

Why the fuck are they fighting the vertical task bar? Or the 3D files folder? I've wasted so much time in connecting this shite OS from OneDrive and copilot.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

I don‘t know what you mean. I can have vertical or horizontal bars wherever I want, how many I want and with different apps pinned to each if I want. KDE Linux btw.