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I distro hopped for a bit before finally settling in Debian (because Debian was always mentioned as a distro good for servers, or stable machines that are ok with outdated software)

And while I get that Debian does have software that isn't as up to date, I've never felt that the software was that outdated. Before landing on Debian, I always ran into small hiccups that caused me issues as a new Linux user - but when I finally switched over to Debian, everything just worked! Especially now with Debian 13.

So my question is: why does Debian always get dismissed as inferior for everyday drivers, and instead mint, Ubuntu, or even Zorin get recommended? Is there something I am missing, or does it really just come down to people not wanting software that isn't "cutting edge" release?

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 12 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

Debian is more like AOSP. It's a starting point. Super bare. More commonly used in servers and such.

[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Also things tend to be older on Debian which isn't the fit for more gaming oriented systems. Due to optimization not being yet available and drivers for the latest hardware

[–] UnfinishedProjects@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Ah, ok - yeah I can definitely see how for gaming it might not be ideal. I've never thought Linux was all that smooth of a transition for gamers though, no matter what OS you're using - but I guess that heavily depends on the games you're playing.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 9 hours ago

Gaming on Linux has been really good for the last several years. The main issue is certain multiplayer games that intentionally block Linux users.

[–] 474D@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It's pretty smooth on bazzite aside from kernel anti-cheat games. Just run em through steam, even pirated games

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Even with games that usually use kernal anti-cheat systems like battleeye, some games specifically have enabled proton support and just work as well.

[–] Filetternavn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 6 hours ago

The problem hasn't been compatibility for a long time, it was developers intentionally blacklisting Linux in their anticheat. Turns out a lot of people hate their customers having freedom in their software

[–] BillibusMaximus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago

I guess that heavily depends on the games you're playing

I think this is the key thing.

If you're always buying the newest GPU to play the latest tech- envelope-pushing AAA title that requires the latest greatest driver, then you're probably not going to have a good time with gaming on Debian.

But some of us don't care about those types of games, or maybe in some cases we do but are willing to wait a while to play a particular title (hello Patient Gamers). In that case Debian is a nice, rock solid gaming platform.

Anecdotally, I probably do 85+% of my gaming on Debian (the rest being my steam deck). And it works fine for me because of the types of games I play and/or how long I tend to wait before getting new titles (giving Debian time to catch up).

It's definitely not for every gamer, but I don't think it's as unusable for gaming as people often suggest.

[–] UnfinishedProjects@lemmy.zip 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

What would be considered "bare" about it? Granted, I'm not gaming on it or anything, but I've found it to work pretty well out of the box, just downloading software as I need - but nothing that has caused any sort of headache due to missing drivers or anything like that.

To me it seems like it would be pretty simple for most people to switch over from windows - albiet maybe not for the super beginners that have never seen a command line - but for most semi-tech literate, I would think it would be a decent entry into Linux.

Genuinely curious what is actually stripped down or missing, because maybe it's just something that I'm not even aware that I'm missing out on, lol

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

Older drivers won't support newer hardware. Only includes default apps from gnome and KDE. No DE tweaks to speak of. No performance optimizations. No Gear Lever. No fractional scaling implemented, etc. etc.

[–] UnfinishedProjects@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 hours ago

I guess it makes sense that I'm comfortable with using Debian then, lol, because I don't know what most of those things you mentioned are - haha.

Thanks for the explanation though :)

[–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

no fractional scaling? thats a DE/WM feature not distro related

old drivers? so is every stable point release distro unless you go out of your way to get an to date kernel,

only includes default apps? you mean following the DE's developer's vision? (sure for gnome it is a downside for most, tweaks should 100% be included on all gnome installs)

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 0 points 8 hours ago

no fractional scaling? thats a DE/WM feature not distro related

Lots of distros these days come out of the box with that pre-configured, so no, it's not.

only includes default apps? you mean following the DE's developer's vision?

Yes.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Super bare. 🤣🤣🤣
Debian is probably Thee most supported distro with the most packages available.
Debian is also among the absolute best among Linux desktop options, and actually quite popular.
There's a reason Debian is still the most forked distro.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 7 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Debian is probably Thee most supported distro with the most packages available.

I'm not talking about availability. I'm talking about comes pre-installed so the user doesn't have to go out and find them to use basic functionality.

Debian is also among the absolute best among Linux desktop options, and actually quite popular.

I did not say it was not great or popular.

There's a reason Debian is still the most forked distro.

This is not the dunk you think it is...

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I’m talking about comes pre-installed

Apart from Steam not being a standard installed item, it is very feature full.
For 32 bit you also need to enable multi-arch.

But apart from gaming it is in no way bare and very very far from "super bare". Ans Steam is pretty easy to install.

I did not say it was not great or popular.

You wrote it was mostly for servers. Which although it is an excellent server distro, it is most definitely developed at least as much for desktop use.

This is not the dunk you think it is…

I don't think you really understand the implications.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Apart from Steam not being a standard installed item, it is very feature full.

I've just given you several examples of how it's not.

For 32 bit you also need to enable multi-arch.

Just making my point for me now.

You wrote it was mostly for servers

No I wrote that's it's more commonly used in servers.

I don't think you really understand the implications.

I don't think you do.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I think you're treating this like a pit fight.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I dunno what that means. I gave what I felt like a very simple take and this person showed to argue with me, not the other way around.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

It looks like one of you is treating the other as a person deserving of respectful conversation.

[–] UnfinishedProjects@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

While I get what you mean about things being pre-installed for super new people to Linux/terminal. . . If it has a apt package, it's as easy as "sudo apt install xyz". Also, I thi k Debian comes with the synaptic package manager which makes it fairly easy to install as well. With that said though, I do see your point, as it's one more hurdle.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 0 points 7 hours ago

If it has a apt package, it's as easy as "sudo apt install xyz"

This is the kind of ignorant shit that relegates Linux to nerd circles. What do you do with this information? What is xyz, and exactly xyz because if you get a single letter wrong it does not work. Further the user has to already know what they want, which a new user will not.

[–] anticonnor@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I don’t know the AOSP acronym so I’ll take a guess: Always On Server Platform?

[–] antimidas@sopuli.xyz 10 points 9 hours ago

Android Open Source Project, it's the open base that the actual Android releases are built upon. It's not really usable as is, since it lacks the required kernel blobs and software that people have come to expect (like Google's proprietary stuff).

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 7 points 9 hours ago

Android open source project. It's the base behind every android variation, but it has pretty generic software (although sometimes better than the alternatives companies choose to ship instead).