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[–] BranBucket@lemmy.world 41 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 7 minutes ago) (7 children)

People don't often realize how subtle changes in language can change our thought process. It's just how human brains work sometimes.

The old bit about smoking and praying is a great example. If you ask a priest if it's alright to smoke when you pray, they're likely to say no, as your focus should be on your prayers and not your cigarette. But if you ask a priest if it's alright to pray while you're smoking, they'd probably say yes, as you should feel free to pray to God whenever you need...

Now, make a machine that's designed to be agreeable, relatable, and makes persuasive arguments but that can't separate fact from fiction, can't reason, has no way of intuiting it's user's mental state beyond checking for certain language parameters, and can't know if the user is actually following it's suggestions with physical actions or is just asking for the next step in a hypothetical process. Then make the machine try to keep people talking for as long as possible...

You get one answer that leads you a set direction, then another, then another... It snowballs a bit as you get deeper in. Maybe something shocks you out of it, maybe the machine sucks you back in. The descent probably isn't a steady downhill slope, it rolls up and down from reality to delusion a few times before going down sharply.

Are we surprised some people's thought processes and decision making might turn extreme when exposed to this? The only question is how many people will be effected and to what degree.

People don’t often realize how subtle changes in language can change our thought process.

just changing a single word in your daily usage can change your entire outlook from negative to positive. it's strange, but unless you've experienced it yourself how such minute changes can have such large effects it's hard to believe.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 55 minutes ago (1 children)

But if you ask a priest if it's alright to pray while you're smoking, they'd probably say yes, as you should feel free to pray to God whenever you need...

When would a priest ever tell anyone it's not okay to pray?

[–] BranBucket@lemmy.world 4 points 40 minutes ago* (last edited 35 minutes ago)

It's the opinion on smoking, not praying, that differs.

In both cases you're praying and smoking at the same time, so your actions don't change, but the priest rationalizes two completely different answers based on the way the question is posed. It's just an example to show how two contradictory answers can seem rational to the same person because of the language used.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Are we surprised some people's thought processes and decision making might turn extreme when exposed to this?

Yes, actually. I'm not doubting the power of language, but I cannot ever see something anyone ever says alter my sense of reality or right from wrong.

I had a "friend" say to me recently "why do you always go against the grain?" My reply was "I will go against the grain for the rest of my life if it means doing or saying what's right".

I guess my point is that I have a very hard time relating to this.

[–] BranBucket@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I guess my point is that I have a very hard time relating to this.

That's fair. In the same vein, you might find a priest that tells you to stop smoking for your health no matter how you phrase the question about lighting up and prayer. What people are receptive to is going to vary.

I'd like argue that more of us are susceptible to this sort of thing than we suspect, but that's not really something that can be proved or disproved. What seems pretty certain is that at least some of us are at risk, and given all the other downsides of chatbots, it'd be best to regulate them in a hurry.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 2 points 55 minutes ago

Sure, that's why propaganda can be so powerful. It's not just what is said, it's how it's said. And pretty much everyone if 3 vulnerable to the right propaganda - especially people who think they're not vulnerable to propaganda.

[–] Eh_I@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago
[–] Zink@programming.dev 4 points 3 hours ago

Then make the machine try to keep people talking for as long as possible...

That's probably a huge part of it. How many billions of dollars have been spent engineering content on a screen to get its tendrils into people's minds and attention and not let go?

EnGaGeMent!!!

[–] how_we_burned@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 hours ago

This is really well written. Great post.