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[–] Yliaster@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You can be against US and Chinese fascism simultaneously.

[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Chinese fascism

Just say you don't know what you're talking about.

[–] Yliaster@lemmy.world -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago (30 children)

You didn't make one you just stated something wildly incorrect so why should I take the time to give you a well thought out response trying to explain how truly idiotic is?

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In what way is China fascist? It's a socialist country, public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy and the working classes control the state.

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Authoritarianism, violent oppression of minorites and dissenting movements, deeply ingrained surveillance state with state censorship.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

China does not violently oppress minorities, and wielding state authority, censorship, and surveilance against capitalists and fascists is necessary for a socialist state, and doesn't make it fascist. Fascism is capitalism violently defending itself from decay and solidifying bourgeois control, not proletarian.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 weeks ago

But enough about the US.

projection

[–] Yliaster@lemmy.world -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Surveillance and political suppression for one. Media, journalism, etc.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (11 children)

That's not what fascism means, especially when these are used against capitalists most of all, and not against the working classes nearly as much. Fascism is capitalism violently entrenching itself when it finds itself in crisis, it isn't when a socialist state uses state power to keep capitalists under control and expropriate their property.

[–] LwL@lemmy.world -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's not what fascism is either lol

I wouldn't call china fascist, though doubtlessly authoritarian. But I don't have nearly as much info on china, it seems to me the persecution of minorities is less of a central political scapegoat and more some weird side thing. But without speaking chinese, I might be wrong. The US had plenty of fascist characteristics at this point and is rather open about the persecution.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

The US is fascist because it's in crisis. Imperialism is decaying and austerity is being brought inward.

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