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[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

When will Westerners realize that the common characture of the brainwashed, thought controlled, information controlled, constantly surveiled citizen that we attribute to China/The USSR/etc... IS US?! You clutch your pearls at people in other countries potentially being treated like that but are inclined to do nothing about OUR OWN countries treating US like that.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 2 points 9 minutes ago

A Russian is on an airliner heading to the US, and the American in the seat next to him asks, “So what brings you to the US?” The Russian replies, “I’m studying the American approach to propaganda.” The American says, “What propaganda?” The Russian says, “That’s what I mean.”

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 hour ago

Snowden showed they realized but didn't care

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 hours ago

All of the ID verification, posing as age verification, legislation is for better thought monitoring of social credit too.

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 33 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Per Wikipedia:

The program first emerged in the early 2000s, inspired by the credit scoring systems in other countries.

It’s almost the same thing but a different name, and is nationalized to a state system instead of like 3 or 4 companies lmao

Right wingers fear the word “social” for some reason ig

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It's also not applied at a national level, but in some areas, from what I've read, and is used largely against companies that try to skirt the law.

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

I mean, that’s also pretty awesome that there’s decent regulations as part of it(at least nominally, I don’t live there so can’t say for certain), but it seems to be primarily a banking/lending thing similar to in the US which is what a lot of jingoistic fearmongering types either completely miss or purposely ignore.

It’s decidedly not a surveillance thing, which is the funny part.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 14 points 5 hours ago

The Misconceptions section of that page is really funny. It just keeps on going with the same thing over and over but with different people and dates, it feels like a bit

[–] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Some gringo in the comments: "Something something Uyghurs, something something mass surveillance, winnie poo"

[–] Smackyroon@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 hours ago

Liberals and real actual gaza genocide: 🥱

Liberals and fake Uyghur genocide: Real shit

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

I'm not comparing the systems or saying it's better, but you don't need a credit rating to get a mortgage on a home in the US and are doing yourself a disservice repeating that talking point.

If you don't have a credit rating they'll ask for other evidences you are able to pay off a 15-30 year loan like consistent and not missing payments on a phone, rent, utilities, internet, etc steady employment, bigger down payment. it's called manual underwriting or a non traditional mortgage application.

[–] BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It's much more difficult to secure a mortgage that way and you will be paying exploitive interest rates. It's like saying offering up collateral or buying a house outright is path to home ownership- something the vast majority of homebuyers can not do.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 41 minutes ago

Most people that don't have a credit rating don't have the secondary information they'll ask for to do the manual underwriting process, and it seems nobody publishes direct data sets on no credit rating loans, but I did find some estimates at around 0.5-2% that's still thousands of mortgages a year but not really significant amount overall.

I thought it was closer to 8-10% but that was bullshit after looking into it more to get the numbers above, and if it's only 2% then I'll rescind the original statement & stand corrected, that's for any practical measure a requirement.

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago

Man, what world you live in?

[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Yea, China monitors a billion people in their country and assigns them a score if a citizen walks on the sidewalk correctly /s

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

assigns them a score if a citizen walks on the sidewalk correctly

Funny story about Jaywalking

The automobile lobby in the US took up the cause of labeling and scorning jaywalkers in the 1910s and early 1920s. In 1912, for instance, Popular Mechanics magazine reported that the term was current in Kansas City: "The city pedestrian who cares not for traffic regulations at street corners, but strays all over the street, crossing in the middle of the block, or attempting to save time by choosing a diagonal route across a street intersection instead of adhering to the regular crossing, is designated as a 'jay walker,' in Kansas City."

In 1915, when New York City’s police commissioner Arthur Woods sought to apply the word "jaywalker" to anyone who crossed the street at mid-block, the New York Times protested, calling it “highly opprobrious” and “a truly shocking name.”

Originally in the US, the legal rule was that "all persons have an equal right in the highway, and that in exercising the right each shall take due care not to injure other users of the way". In time, however, streets became the province of vehicular traffic, both practically and legally.

Anyway, enjoy your hyper-criminalized car culture hellscape while making spooky fingers about Evil Foreign Country.