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So you blame the developer and not the pirates for this?
This is the equivalent of trumpers crying about “illegal” immigrants and not the people that hire them.
Go ahead and boycott the game over this. I’m sure the amount of money they’re making from all the would-be pirates now having to actually pay for a change will more than make up for it.
In a world were plenty of games without denuvo are doing just fine? Fuck yeah I blame the publisher/dev.
Go back to the Steam forums where you belong, bootlicker.
Person disagrees with your opinion:
You: “bOoTliCkEr!”
Except when people provide you with evidence and reasoning you just go "lmao" and leave it at that too.
I laugh at shit I find funny. If that makes someone a bootlicker, I hope for your sake that you have no sense of humor whatsoever.
Sure, just don't pretend you're engaging in logical discussion.
It’s completely logical to me. A thing can be two things. Maybe look up something called “nuance”.
Laughing about people crying because of an anti-piracy feature instead of being pissed at the pirates- then going so far as to say “well, they weren’t going to buy anyway!” as an argument against using it is fucking hilarious to me.
This doesn’t mean I have nothing to say about it. Nor does it make my stance in bad faith. I just think your argument is ridiculous, and therefore I laughed at it.
Logic is objective, so saying it's logical "to you" is illogical.
A sense of humour is irrelevant to a discussion from a logical standpoint. Furthermore, we literally have data and studies that show that piracy doesn't hurt the sales of games— when provided with this evidence in the comments, you just "laughed" at it.
You ask for reasoning/evidence, and when provided, just laugh at it. Laughter doesn't dismiss evidence.
I laughed at the argument that “piracy doesn’t hurt the sales of games- THEREFORE it should be allowed”.
It’s not about hurting the sales of the games, which it does- they weren’t going to buy it anyway is a shit argument. And for those that PAY for it, it’s a slap in the face. I should get to play it for free too, right?
Where do you draw the line?
All game should be free! Developers don’t need paychecks! It’s a service to the people!
LMAO!
And read THIS
The consensus isn't a dislike of DRM in general but a special hatred of Denuvo. Denuvo is especially bad because of how much a performance hog it is. The idea that it's protection will be circumvented eventually but the people who bought copies will have worse performance is the frustrating part. Additionally, Linux users who change their proton version can be slapped with lock outs(usually temp) on games they purchased with no recourse.
The developers have a lot of choices in their approach to piracy and they chose a company that makes performance killing restraints that runs concurrent to the software causing poor performance. The game could be fun and run well but it is saddled by the poor business choices of the developer.
Show me the data that proves piracy actually causes a tangible loss for the developer for DRM to actually be needed.
(hint: it doesn't exist. It instead shows most pirates weren't going to buy the thing anyway, so they don't make any more money by adding garbage like Denuvo)
Lmao…. Show you the data that would otherwise be impossible to show you?
There is no tangible way to prove who would or wouldn’t buy a thing if the parameters were different other than polling them.
And how exactly do you think polling dishonest people will turn out?
Why is pirating inherently dishonest in your opinion?
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/09/eu-study-finds-piracy-doesnt-hurt-game-sales-may-actually-help/
LMAO….
Denuvo adds an obscene amount of checks to the executable, which manifests as an increased CPU load (compare Assassin's Creed Origins with and without it) and poorer performance. It also restricts the game's availability to legitimate paying customers if there's any issue with the "is this a new installation" detector.
Would-be pirates were never going to pay for it.
No loss.
You... either completely missed or completely ignored the point. The point being that, in order to attack the pirates who wouldn't have bought the game anyway, regular paying users are getting screwed over by a significant performance hit.
Yes I do because they actively chose to make their game shittier for people who purchase legitimate copies. You think pirates are going to pay for this shit? They were never going to pay to begin with, what makes you think they're going to pay for it now?
They’re not. And now they don’t get to play it for free either.
Win-win.
Who exactly "wins" anything here?
The dev pay for denuvo licenses an doesn't gain enough sales to make up for it - lose.
The pirate waits longer to play the game - lose.
The paying customer gets an inferior product - lose.
Way to contradict yourself in literally the next comment. Clearly you are a shill and not a serious person.
Pirates weren’t going to buy anyway, so therefore just let them pirate the game.
Thats your argument?
So that’s a slap in the face of paying customers. Why not just make the game fee for everyone then? If stupid “what if’s” are allowed.
And I’m not contradicting shit. You’re crying about a protection the developer put in place to stop people from PLAYING THE GAME FOR FREE. And not crying about the people that caused them to have to do it.
Fucking laughable.
Oh, and read this:
Stop sabotaging games for paying customers is the argument. It's not complicated. You are obviously more interested in trying to stick it to pirates than getting an optimal experience for your money. Pirates will still play it for free in the end anyway.
Pirates didn't "cause" anyone to do anything. The developers did it themselves after buying into Denuvo's scam. Thousands and thousands of dollars paid every month to make up for the unknowable number of "lost sales". I guess there's one thing Denuvo does well.
Also, you did contradict yourself. Will the pirates buy the game or will they not? Make your mind up.
For denuvo to adversely effect your gameplay, you need to be running some seriously outdated hardware. It sucked the life out of AC Origins, sure…. Almost ten years ago….
It’s basically a non-issue now.
The only people crying about it now are would-be pirates that never planned to buy it in the first place. They are people pretending to be on a crusade against the «evil» Denuvo but in reality just angry they now can’t easily pirate the game anymore.
So Denuvo "basically" doesn't cause any performance issues, and if it does, its the users fault for having lower end hardware? That's just ridiculous.
Calling all critics of Denuvo pirates is nonsense. Not all people who buy games are okay with mandatory online checks, performance hits, and curtailing of mod support.
Speaking of things that Trumpers do... Falsely accuse all opponents of being domestic terrorists or radical leftists and refuse to accept that they might be wrong.
Lmao.