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[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

When you couple what you just said with what they're trying to do, your own argument can be made in my favor.

One of my hobbies in college was shoulder surfing classmates passwords just to repeat it back to them later in the day. Though on a phone you have far fewer reasons to type in an associated accounts password.

Never tell anyone else this again, and stop doing it. What an insane invasion of privacy.

My security should be my choice on my device end of story. My password/passcode plus encryption with easily accessible ways to put it into lockdown mode and have lockdown mode on a continuous timer is absolutely enough for my threat model.

I don't need any else making any addition call on it, and I definitely don't need someone that is willingly bragging about invading others privacy coaching me on what these companies are intending while actively trying to take my right to privacy away.

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

An option for full password on every cold boot with pin for subsequent unlocks would strengthen security without removing user freedom.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You call it an invasion of privacy, I call it fucking with friends while teaching them to be cognizant of who is watching what they do. You realize they can (and did) just immediately change their password right?

I’m also not sure how “the average person treats their passcodes and passwords like everyone is intentionally looking away” somehow strengthens “lock making the phone less secure behind a passcode” as an argument.

And yes, it 100% lowers the security of the phone. Which absolutely is your choice. Which I also do, and have done with my wife and kids phones. But the idea that a passcode is somehow a solution is just silly.

Not as silly as a 24 hour wait controlled by google, but still silly.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

You said classmates. And hobby implies you did it a lot, and a lot extends beyond a few friends very quickly, so I do doubt it was limited to that, but I've got no choice but to take your word. Also I had thought you were the guy previously okaying this privacy nightmare in a trenchcoat, so ignore half of what I was saying.

Whatever it is or whatever it helps, if people want to opt into it, have at it. I will not be doing that. My solution protects me from everyone accept teams that have the funding and skill to get in through other means. I use biometrics, not perfect but it works. If I want those disabled until a password/code is in, it's a tap away. No one sees me use it because I'm using biometrics until I don't want to.

In what world do we expect companies that have decades long track records of fucking us for profit to stop after another empty promise?