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[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 28 minutes ago* (last edited 27 minutes ago)

To those who think it is a fair compromise: It is not.

Android already had one layer of this shit before. When installid freshly dowloaded apk, android would prompt you to confirm that the source of the apk is trusted. This was not like this before. Before you'd just install apk.

And I agree to a certain amount. But thing is, it was added for no specific reason. People who install apks form outside source, will keep doing it and they 99% of the time know what they are doing or being told to do so by someone who knows what they are doing.

Adding another layer to this wont solve the problem, except make users annoyed for 24h wait time. And this is only adding 1 layer now. Who the fuck knows what is going to be 1 year later. 5 years later?

[–] compast@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

fuck google. We immediately need linux like alternative to android

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 8 points 2 hours ago

This would make sense if google play store wasnt full of malware. Scammers dont need you to sideload malicious apps they just get you to download it from the play store.

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 16 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Remember when you used to own shit? Wow. This is beyond fucked. Right now, it’s “one day”. But this is only because they got a shit load of backlash for disallowing ALL installing software without their permission. They WILL enact it. They’ll just wait until people are used to this. Then they will disallow it all.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 9 points 2 hours ago

I think it was just a technique for them to pretend they listened to the community: first, announce something extreme; then, back down a bit.

People will think they won while they've just lost.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 10 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

it's very clear we have to escape Android and Google entirely, there is no other option.

Please donate to PostmarketOS if you have the means, it gives us a true alternative that is completely community owned, it just needs our support to become polished and to add support for more phones.

We have to support software that's still made for us. while we still can.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 hour ago

Yes, I am more seriously than ever looking into using Postmarket OS.

[–] rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net 10 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Sideloading < Aka avoiding the monopoly app store with your own device

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 7 points 2 hours ago

We should stop calling it sideloading as if it's something bad. It's just installing.

It's my device FFS!

[–] icedaemon0@lemmy.world 32 points 5 hours ago

Meanwhile the scam apps and viruses in the damn play store: ...

[–] batshit@lemmy.world 24 points 6 hours ago

Important to note ADB is still unaffected

[–] Mylemmypt@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I use fdroid and aurora stores but lately I'm having this message for apps installed from aurora that are also available in play store.

Is this a thing enforced by android or by the apps? Is there a way to circumvent it?

[–] VonReposti@feddit.dk 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I saw that on an app about a year ago. I've never uninstalled an app that fast before.

E: Yeah, exact same message

[–] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 70 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I teach digital literacy and 99% of unsavory software I encounter on people's phones come from the play store or app store

I will believe that they're serious about protecting users when I see them do something about the crap ton of borderline scam solitaire and weather apps infesting their stores

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Your wish is fulfilled. Google now requires the government id, full biometrics and shared gps location to publish apps in the store.

[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 42 minutes ago

I mean, yeah. They do. Would it be finally enough to stop all scammers online? All in on a clear "No".

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

See, that is fine. If Google wants to have a safe and curated, high quality store, (which it doesn't), it is very logical that it would want to have the origins of software very well identified.

AS LONG AS it provides a mechanism for users to access other sources of software.

They are doing the opposite, allow bullshit apps in the "safe store" while hindering the independents.

We desperately need a decently competent OSS phone OS, if possible with a compatibility layer for Android apps.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 320 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (57 children)

A one day wait period to install an app on your mobile pocket computer. Fucken bullshit.

Edit: to all the "its one time" defenders, its one time for now. Stop falling for it. It always starts with an inch.

[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 36 minutes ago

A one day wait period to install an app on your mobile pocket computer.

And that somehow supposed to stop users from inflicting their phones with virus software? Like, it does not make sense. Okay, force all devs to upload their IDs, no biggie (I guess). But do not lock users into the "tough luck, you cant sideload" system. 1 day wait will not prevent anything. They just added a mild annoyance for 24h, nothing more.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 38 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I mean, it always starts with an inch but what people dont get is that compared to the 2000's we are a mile deep and compared to rhe 80's we are already in a dystopia.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 53 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It used to be no time at all. You could just do it. From that perspective they’ve already taken a mile.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 20 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

From zero to any nonzero value is infinite miles

[–] sonofearth@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago

sushhh… the shareholders’ imaginary line has to go up.

[–] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago

Well if you're in the US you can head down to your LGS, buy a Glock 19 and do some plinking while you wait for the software to install on your phone :/

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[–] markz@suppo.fi 83 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

So, the idea is to make the process as annoying as possible.

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[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 65 points 13 hours ago (6 children)

"This is Android's new 'advanced flow' for INSTALLING apps without verification". Sideloading is such a bullshit term made only to confuse consumers. They can wrap that in sparkling wrapper, but it's still security theater at best and definetly misleading. Apps from F-Droid or any other app 'store' are not any less safe than the ones at googles own offering.

[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

Without verification by Google. I am very much capable of verifying the origin and trustworthiness of the apps I install.

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