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[–] pool_spray_098@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Is GrapheneOS a good enough alternative?

I am very interested in switching to that when their phone comes out... But I wish pure Linux were viable.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It just works. Some banking apps won't.

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 2 points 27 minutes ago* (last edited 25 minutes ago)

One of my banking apps (Citi) didn't even work in stock Android on a Pixel. It thinks I'm rooted lol.

Everything works well enough in the browser though. Nowadays I just do all that stuff on a desktop PC. Not everything needs to be an app or even done on a phone.

The desktop versions of bank websites have everything I need, whereas mobile versions can skip out on certain features. Plus, these apps tend to hoard perms for "security" reasons, or so they say.

If you have a strong password and legit MFA (like TOTP or a physical key), use a trusted device/browser that's good enough. There shouldn't be a need to grab my location or nearby devices.

Bonus points if the bank lets you review login sessions and deauth devices, flags things like impossible travel, etc.

Credit unions tend to do better. DCU is one example. They excel at security, don't do any silliness with perms in their app, let you review logins and devices, and have a strong MFA implementation. The big private national players just want to sell you to data brokers to pad their margins while you pay ridiculous interest rates on their crappy products and get nothing in return.

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

Graphene has some quirks, but overall experience is solid. Not perfect, but it does the job.

[–] SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Jo4ted@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Iirc, ValvE was working on one for the Steam Frame so all the Android VR games will run natively on SteamOS.

Edit: its called Lepton. Here's an article i found about it.

[–] duplexsystem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Iirc lepton basically just runs Waydroid/lineage under the hood so its still android

[–] forrgott@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago

I'm not sure that would be necessary, actually. Android is derived from Linux, surely they can do a translation layer for the majority of API calls? I mean there's no need for emulating anything, nor would it necessarily require layering an entire android install on top of Linux..? But my programming knowledge is limited, and somewhat rusty, so I'm not really sure.

[–] Jo4ted@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

I'm not too familiar with the project, but I thought I heard talk about it being a compat. layer instead of a VM. Idk though, I might be entirely wrong lol.