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[–] glimse@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Do you usually post links without reading them?

Interestingly, the study attributes the problems to the drivers not the cars.

Because aside from random catastrophic failure, the vehicle doesn't make you cash. The driver or Tesla's "self-driving" does

[–] Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Bad drivers and shitty "self driving" are how the cars are unsafe.

No matter how it happens if they crash more often or have worse outcomes when they do, then they're less safe.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Is this a bit account? Should the name have clued me in?

[–] Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

You may just be having trouble with the idea that people can reasonably and seriously see the world from a point of view other than your own.

Or it's all a bit!

Who can say? No matter how I answer it's not really evidence, you can draw a 2x2 decision matrix here for both answers and both possibilities. All four outcomes are plausible. Choose the answer that makes you happiest.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No, that's not the same thing. Something being used in a more dangerous way doesn't make it more dangerous or more unsafe.

Driving a car at speed along a cliff in the dark in the rain is more unsafe than driving it slowly in an empty car park. It's the same car.

[–] Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If I included a self destruct button beside the AC controls and claimed that it was driver error that was the problem, how credible would that be?

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 points 5 days ago

That would be an unsafe car in all conditions and with all drivers. Sure, user error would play a part but a reasonable person could still cause a problem.

Perhaps a better analogy will make a useful point. Is there a button for that?