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[–] Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca 81 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Lol, just as Apple released their lowest cost laptop ever at $600

[–] TransNeko@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

let me guess... it's got less processing power than an iPod Nano.

[–] pycorax@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not really sure how big of a difference it makes but isn't the memory on the Neo on the same die as the processor? The A18 Pro is also likely a lot of old binned chips that they've been collecting for a year. I wouldn't be surprises if this completely isolated them from the rising memory costs. Apple really lucked out on the timing of their release. Not that the Neo wouldn't have been an amazing value regardless either way.

[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo -1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

and its STILL insultingly expensive for what it is.

A laptop with one of the worst modern keyboards with a dated ARM phone soc.. Where have I heard that before.

If the pinebook can exist for $200 in tiny volumes, the macbook with its massive production volume is absolutely a slap in the face. The BOM on that thing can't be more than $200-250 even with the wasteful packaging and marketing.

That should be filling the $399 space the eee pc laptops did. The costs should have diminished down by now.

[–] Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Huh? The CPU has still one of the highest single core performance benchmarks on the market, especially considering it's fanless. The keyboard is also really good as they got rid of the butterfly in 2019, it is unfortunate, it has no backlight, and RAM is limited to 8 gigabytes. Otherwise, a good deal with how good the screen and speakers are, and solid aluminum build quality

[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo -3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Gee mister I bet you sure do love paying phat margins on commodity goods.

To quote Allan Sugar, you've bought in to the mugs eyeful.

[–] Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, I buy used ThinkPads for cheap.

[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 0 points 5 hours ago

well, yeah, duh.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

And it uses literally the same exact hardware as the iPhone 🤣

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 day ago

I honestly feel that's less of a diss on the Neo and more of a statement on how overpowered phones are now, especially considering the limitations placed on mobile OSes.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Some of the same hardware, yes.

But also - the CPU/GPU in the iPhones are insane.

Compared against a bunch of laptops in the price class from dell, HP, etc and the single-core performance is like 50% higher on the iPhone CPU in the macbook neo.

I can't wait for more ARM CPUs that hit these specs for a reasonable price.

[–] verdi@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

ARM cpus are great for battery life and aren't saddled with decades of legacy support, what they are not is a physics bending device. It's not a geekbench benchmark that is going to change the reality of physics. Now, if one's use of a computing device is circumscribed to opening web pages, then the iPhone is the device for you. Also, don't forget to breathe in and breathe out.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

As someone who was very excited about ARM several years ago and still is using ARM for half of my homelab equipment, it's unfortunately rapidly become irrelevant. x86 CPUs can now run as efficiently at the same TDP while still beating it in performance with all the benefits of x86. Unless something unforeseen changes, I probably won't be buying any more ARM machines for homelab/server use. Still using what I already own, of course.

RISC-V seems cool though, but not sure that it will be more attractive than x86.

[–] verdi@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 2 points 1 day ago

I'm still excited, ARM is still a gen ahead of x86 in power constrained situations, for energy efficiency, where peak compute is not a requirement. That illusion fades away fast though, when one multitasks or needs a non hardware accelerated pipeline. For single purpose devices like game consoles, that advantage in power consumption looks mighty sweet. Let's see what AMD conjures up for the next gen PS6 or as a response to Lunar lake. The mobile ecosystem, especially Apple, have a vertical integration that makes HW development more agile as they are not saddled by decades of legacy support and tech debt.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

This seems nonsensical to me. It's physically impossible for ARM competitors to match the performance of Apple ARM?

Not to mention that we're talking about their lowest-specced CPU here and there are far more powerful ones.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seems you let you bias take over rather than actually knowing why you’re talking about.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Except I'm factually correct.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Your words were correct but not your laughing smug face. You said it like it was some kind of own when really it was complementing iPhone’s.

I’ll hate on all the companies in the world, but I’ll do it based on facts and not allow my bias to make me look like a clown, as it did for you here.

Just try and be better is all I ask, else we may as well go hang around on r/conservative with all the other folk that don’t fact check and have no integrity.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world -1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

And I'm supposed to be the biased one who looks like a clown?? 🤣

Brother, we aren't talking about phones, we are talking about laptops. Yes, it is a huge own.

else we may as well go hang around on r/conservative with all the other folk that don’t fact check and have no integrity.

As you've admitted, I'm factually correct.

[–] pycorax@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Not exactly, it's a binned version. 5 GPU cores instead of the 6 on the iPhone. Still, it's pretty impressive for what it's able to do.