Some comrades over at Hexbear have organized a donation drive for Palestine and, over the past few weeks, have managed to raise over $1500 for verified Palestinian fundraisers. The fediverse is a good place full of good people.

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[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 39 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Many instances defederated from them because a large chunk of the user base was abusive and brigading. To an extent even the worst right wing instances federated couldn't match.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Not disputing your claim, as it doesn't surprise me at all, but I'm curious: What are "the worst right wing instances" ?

I haven't paid enough attention to notice any instances with a consistent and noticeable right-wing lean.

[–] antonim@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

There used to be exploding-heads.com, it was right-wing but not particularly active IIRC

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Seconded, I am curious, too. I've only seen Tankies, Democrats, and Anarchists in lemmy.world, I haven't come across one Trump supporter in months.

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Lemmy.world defederated from hexbear "pre-emptively" before they even had federation active. To this day, I have never seen this mythical hexbear brigading.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 8 points 5 days ago

Yes. And people including myself have accounts on other servers. And experienced it personally 3-4 years ago. That you didn't experience it doesn't disprove it. There's a reason many of us chose servers like world as primary, that didn't federate.

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 5 days ago (4 children)

[source needed]

I don't like tankies much either but I've seen way worse from the fascists.

[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I saw right wingers raging (rarely), but there would be a post about Bernie sanders and every time there's a hexbear user saying "this capitalist bootlicking swine, I never want to see his revolting war criminal face again." And replied to all comments saying "wtf is wrong with you" with similar comments. Go check the thread of my instance asking if we should defederate, I can find it if you want. So many people who said "the toxicity from hexbear is overwhelming," myself included.

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 5 days ago

I don't disagree with you. I think that we should encourage the hexbears to be pitted against the great danger first - fascism. When I discuss factionalism and solidarity, I try to put the accent on "I understand your criticism, and that is why we should focus on the great danger: fascism and corporatism. If we will grow without compromising, we must rally all behind that cause, so that we foster solidarity."

Propaganda at its core, is "sling something at the wall often enough and it becomes truth".

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Not really sure if it's useful to ask if diarrea or regular shit is worse.

I don't want to step in either

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Well, for one, in eg. East Germany, homosexuality was decriminalised before in the West.

In fascist Italy and Germany, you were sent to a concentration camp.

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

And women's rights, and public infrastructure, and access to education etc.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

True. That's what the east reserved for people who critizised the state

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There were no concentration camps in the Eastern Block, though, the word you're looking for is "prison", which exists in all societies (mostly in the US though).

As for criticising the state, you couldn't publicly criticise the party leader or the communist model in public without getting in trouble (no jail for just talking though), but as they say "in communism you couldn't criticise one person (the party leader), in capitalism you can't criticise your boss or your company".

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 days ago

I'd like to thank you for proving my point

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 2 points 5 days ago

Ultimately that comes down to personal experience and circumstance. And as you can see a lot of people either experienced it themselves or saw it as well. And I don't think it's controversial to say that the Chapo Trap House crew are rather immature. Unfortunately for you a lot of the evidence that you're searching for is lost to time on instances that were Federated that have shut down. If you have access to hexbear you could probably find some of them I'm sure lurking around from 3 to 4 years ago.

Not going to lie I haven't interacted with them in at least 3 years and I haven't missed it. Maybe they've matured. Anything is possible.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago

To be fair, they did specify right-wing Lemmy instances, not right-wingers in general, and I can't think of any instances that would meet that definition off the top of my head.

But Hexbear definitely has a reputation as some of the worst of the worst of the normal instances. Blahaj defederated from them despite Ada trying to get the trans communities of both instances connected because of the harassment, brigading, and outright transphobia Hexbear inflicted on Blahaj users for not being the right kind of leftists. You can still find the community discussions on the topic in the general instance posts. They even tried to claim that Blahaj was being transphobic to them. You know, the LGBTQ instance created and ran to be a space for trans people and others first and foremost.

Hexbear is also known to have at least once tried to convince their mods to "take over other instances and ban all the non-communists."

I believe that at this point if you were to download the stuff to spin up your own instance, Hexbear is on the list of instances that are defederated by default because so many instances have defederated them because of their behavior.