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[–] ugo@feddit.it 17 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

“Ruining discipline”, ha! What idiocy. Suggesting that working from office is the right way and anything that deviates from it is “ruining” something.

How about the people working from the office are “ruining discipline” of the remote workers by taking decisions behind closed doors? No? Seems unfair?

Maybe let people work the way they work their best except for very specific circumstances instead, and stop blaming structural failures within companies against remote workers.

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 19 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I worked in a traditional office environment for the full decade before the pandemic, and I was constantly being distracted by "undisciplined" people. There was always someone having a loud conversation in a quiet workspace or coming to my cubical to interrupt me with pointless bullshit.

Going full remote has finally isolated me from the lack of discipline in office environments.

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 11 points 12 hours ago

Yeah, we were all sitting in the office with headphones to isolate from the office noise and distractions so we could concentrate and getting work done.

[–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 4 points 9 hours ago

Can confirm. Was stuck in an "open office". It was hell on earth until they decided to build brand new offices for the sales team.. Because why the fuck not

[–] belochka@lemmy.world -4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, convenience is often ruining discipline, not for me (ASD) and perhaps not for you, but social ties form between coworkers. That part about behind closed doors - see, they always will.

I mean, we live in a society. Not seeing the faces of the others is a weakness. It's not all about work.

[–] Slowy@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

How is it a weakness? If anything it seems like it would help address inequity in how people are treated based on race, age, gender if people are interacting more anonymously, and maybe we could also dispense with this whole coworkers are a family bs that is meant to instil loyalty to a company that doesn’t care about you and offset a lack of work life balance

[–] belochka@lemmy.world -1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Because those who see each other's faces coordinate closer socially and might eat you. We live in a society, not a friendly place sometimes.

[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 points 1 hour ago

An it sounds like it might be part of this so called problem in society. You can't make the world a better place without starting.