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[–] warm@kbin.earth 9 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Web apps ruined UX though, at least with apps (historically anyway) you would get some consistent UI. There were design guidelines developers could follow. Same for programs on PCs.

Then PWAs came along and ruined UI/UX. Do UX designers even exist anymore?

Sigh. But trading good UI for tracking and data collection, is indeed, not worth it.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure the degradation of websites has been intentional to drive app usage.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 2 points 4 hours ago

The apps are not much better these days. I think it's just cost cutting, avoiding hiring dedicated UX designers.

[–] uuj8za@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Web apps ruined UX though

How so? Do you mean that companies are allowed to customize their own apps now? Cuz with regular desktop frameworks it's pretty hard to do that (compared to web frameworks anyway). All apps end up looking the same.

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yes. That's literally the point. The more things look and behave as expected, the easier they are to use.

Of course these days that gets trumped by the desire to shove the corporate design everywhere.

[–] uuj8za@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago

I'm not sure limiting customization is actually a good thing... There are legitimate customizations and innovative inputs that people like.

For example, Logseq has a fancy text field that can bring up a submenu if you type two left brackets. Something like this is pretty specific to Logseq (or at least certain notes apps) and this would be much harder to replicate in a native app.

Or are you saying Logseq shouldn't do that? And it should assume that the notes area is just a plain text field? I guess that would be considered more "expected".

At least in my experience with Vala and GTK, this would take significantly more effort.