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[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 65 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (14 children)

Just once I would love to open one of these threads without seeing people shitting... on Linux.

Linux is not even the one doing anything wrong but people gotta rag on whoever recommends it as an alternative. This is getting more annoying than however annoying they say Linux users are.

edit: Just to make clear because some folks aren't getting it, this is not an invitation to argue about how you feel about Linux and Linux users. I. don't. fucking. care. I don't even use Linux. Take it to someone who cares.

[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 75 points 9 months ago (38 children)
[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

tbf I get it. Sometimes you just want to be mad.

But like, it's Microsoft's fault.

Or Adobe, Autodesk, Nvidia, etc.

[–] HKayn@dormi.zone 6 points 9 months ago (7 children)

"Hey I have a problem with my Samsung"

"Drop it and get an iPhone instead"

This is what you guys are like.

[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 28 points 9 months ago (31 children)

When people tell you to use Linux, they're not telling you that to solve your immediate problem (e.g. your "show desktop" icon has been replaced with a different icon), but they are telling you to get out of your abusive relationship with Microsoft, because that is the real problem: Microsoft does not respect you, the end-user of their product, and this kind of abusive shit will keep happening for as long as you keep using Windows.

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[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 18 points 9 months ago

More like:

“Hey I have a problem with my Samsung”

"Here's a custom ROM you can install instead" (but also glosses over a lot of the finer decisions that go into whether or not to choose to run a custom ROM)

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (4 children)

iPhone is $999+, Linux is completely free.

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[–] long_chicken_boat@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

you don't have to pay for a +1000$ device to switch to Linux. In most cases, you can just install it in the same machine you have Windows.

It's more like replacing Samsung's Android ROM with a custom ROM. Sure, you'll have to learn new things to use it, but you don't have to buy an iPhone.

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[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Nah, I switched to Linux last year and it cost me $0. No new hardware needed. So not a good metaphor.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 21 points 9 months ago (4 children)

As is everyone taking every possible opportunity to mention Linux. It's not like we don't know it exists, we don't need constantly reminding that it's an option.

Although it isn't an option for a vast number of reasons, but mostly because corporate IT requires systems that run only on Windows. Therefore the only solution is Windows so the fact another operating system exists is utterly irrelevant and yet somehow you guys constantly keep mentioning it. Then we constantly have to point out that lots and lots of programs don't run on Linux and then you will inhibitively start going on about Wine. It's tiring. I would love it if we could have a conversation about Microsoft without having to pretend that other operating systems are viable alternatives.

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If Linux is not for you that's understandable. The thing here is that they are not having a conversation about Microsoft. They are having the pettiest, least technical possible discussion about Linux, it's devolving to pure clique shit talking.

If you want to talk about Microsoft, just talk about Microsoft.

[–] HKayn@dormi.zone 10 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Problem is, whenever you try taking about Microsoft, someone just has to interject and be like "yeah you should be using Linux instead"

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'd just like to interject for a moment…

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[–] Alborlin@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Or how about

  1. You can't easily define what apps start with startup
  2. Even when wine is installed , lot of programs won't run in wine
  3. You cannot easily find where the program is installed like you can in windows
  4. You attach a external disk but some apps won't see it mounted making it Impossible to explore in their file picker , not all but some
  5. There is almost huge lack of programs , for which there is huge possibility that a windows program exists.
  6. There is constant need to use terminal for lot of things for which you can't a program see point 4.

I keep telling Linux is still not for common home use for users who are in between power users and people only using it for browsing. This will get me downvotes here on Lemmy all the time . Linux edge lords are their own bubble.

[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 7 points 9 months ago
  1. You can’t easily define what apps start with startup

For point 2, that is true and improving. Always do some research about program compatibility before completely changing your computer's OS.

For point 3. Programs are generally installed in /usr/bin and ~/.var/app for Flatpaks (analogous to MS Store). Much easier than finding where MS store apps are installed.

Never come across point 4, so I can't dismiss it.

  1. As with 2, depends on your usecase

  2. GNOME Disk manager (comes with Fedora and Ubuntu) has options to mount drives to arbitrary locations if needed.

I understand your argument but making points like these don't really contribute to the discussion.

[–] icedterminal@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

All but one of your points here appear to be your lack of understanding Linux and/or user error. Point 4 (2) is understandable due to Windows just being the default and most popular choice.

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[–] CustodialTeapot@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I rarely see that,. But what I see all the time is Linux lovers being toxic fanboys trying to shove their "passion" down everyone's throat. Also, 99% of them being wrong about what it can "offer".

Its a pure superiority complex fanbase.

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Complaining about Linux and Linux users happens in every Windows-related thread, and you are doing it right now.

As a slight aside I am also sooo tired of people calling talking about something "shoving down our throats". People talking about someone you don't care for is not physically assaulting you. That expression seems to exist solely for people to wind themselves up over stuff that absolutely doesn't justify that level of outrage.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 9 months ago

It's shoving down throats when Linux is brought up in every single Windows discussion. The complaints about Linux are in response to Linux users never being able to just let it lie, people aren't just bitching in a void.

This is absolutely not people being mad for people just talking about something. I have an extremely hard time believing you truly believe that is the issue here.

There are countless places to discuss Linux without bringing it into the comments of every Windows post. Windows users are not commenting on every post in the Linux communities about how much more straightforward running Windows is.

It would be like vegan eaters commenting about how good it is to be vegan on every post in food communities that features non-vegan food.

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[–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

Fanbase because the philosophy is based on owning your computer. If some asshole you don't know needs your trust to run their closed-source-no-one-really-knows-what-it-actually does inside what is no longer really your computer just because you paid for it then here...here's a dum-dum. Hands you a sucker.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (14 children)

Well maybe stop suggesting that the solution to every tiny little cosmetic inconvenience is to completely switch operating systems to one that has notoriously flakey hardware support.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I would say "notoriously flakey hardware support" is a false statement these days

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Nope, still true of the last time I tried Linux last year. The sound system stopped working after every reboot, and clicking the distro's built-in update button completely trashed the system.

But it doesn't have an AI button in the corner, so I guess that solves my problem!

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[–] mriormro@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (8 children)

'Just switch to Linux' isn't a solution to a problem. It's a tired and lazy ass response that is frankly starting to make me dislike this place.

[–] FoxBJK@midwest.social 8 points 9 months ago

OK well if you're looking for the actual solution to the problem brought up in this thread..... here: https://i.imgur.com/nHEcFG2r.png

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lol holy persecution complex, batman... This is a thread shitting on Windows.

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[–] HKayn@dormi.zone 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Just once I would love to open one of these threads without seeing people spam "USE LINOOX INSTEAD!"

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[–] SparrowRanjitScaur@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

I love Linux, but it's extremely annoying how many threads there are showing a mildly annoying and optional feature in Windows with 10 people replying "Use Linux!". As if Linux doesn't have a ridiculous number of UX problems itself.

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