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[–] InvaderDJ@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly, I don't know how any end user who doesn't understand IT and wasn't around before services like Cloudflare were available can say this. They objectively don't have the information or experience to make the claim.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Cloudflare is solving some really big problems, right? Like DDOS?

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I've been using the intermet since 2003 and have seen no difference except when cloudfare breaks.

[–] idkwhatimdoing@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, the internet is much bigger than it was in 2003, and it needs more complex protective tools. The fact that you haven't noticed cloudflare when it is working is a sign that it is, well, working.

And the fact that your favorite sites aren't down more often is yet another sign. Downtime due to DDOS attacks alone would be so much greater without cloudflare than downtime due to cloudflare currently is. Your perspective is a pure lack of knowledge and an excess of confirmation bias.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

It's the eternal IT conundrum. Something goes wrong: "What are we paying you for?!" Everything goes right: "What are we paying you for?!"

It's best to ignore the users as much as possible and just keep working.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are very difficult to respect.

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Your respect is very difficult to care about.

[–] Aasikki@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've been using the intermet since 2003

Then you should remember this: https://youtu.be/48rz8udZBmQ?si=81BQVmYGYRhpPCsw

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[–] InvaderDJ@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you ever self hosted a website? Was that a modern website, or just a bunch of text? Are you experienced with uptime SLAs on multiple services? Have you ever had to deal with a DDOS attack?

There are lots of things that Cloudflare does that requires experience and knowledge to notice or understand. And it isn't even the biggest single point of failure when it comes to the Internet. When AWS has an outage for instance there is a huge chunk of the Internet that goes down.

There are problems with the centralization of the Internet. But this happened for a reason, and it has been so long and these services have been so reliable that people don't even realize what it was like before.