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[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 44 points 8 months ago (1 children)

A panicky move to the cloud might be extremely expensive too. Especially if you don't have cloud ready applications (old on prem apps, full fledged VMs, etc. )

[–] argh_another_username@lemmy.ca 24 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It’s not panic. We already have direct connects to AWS and Azure. It’s something we’ve been working on for five years now.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's interesting, because hosting anything in the cloud is usually way more expensive than on prem. We just pulled a large number of our systems back out of gcp because of it.

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 28 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Well that was my point, moving to the cloud requires drastic changes in the way your infra works. You cannot have full fledged VMs running at 10% of capacity 95% of the time like you do on prem. You need to be able to scale up and down on a whim with containers/micro services/whatever you call it. I've worked with a lot of companies that never understood that and bitterly regretted moving to the cloud.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yup. I’ve seen companies that wanted to “get to the cloud” and didn’t want to spend any money on redeveloping their systems so it turned into a lift-and-shift which just drove their costs up.

[–] Restaldt@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago

Hey hey my company is doing exactly this right now

"Get EVERYTHING OFF PREM. SEND ALL OF IT TO GCP NOW"

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

My company just came to their senses on this.

We demonstrated one product worked well in the cloud by completely re-architecting it. It was a two year project. However then management was all gung ho, and set an extremely aggressive deadline, meaning lift and shift was the only possibility. However just before the new year, management finally realized just how expensive it was going to be, and changed their mind.

The thing is, our products are internet services, so we have to maintain data centers and networking at many locations around the world, and need to have the people to support that. However datacenters are not our core business and there’s a good argument that we should get out of it. Just not that way

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

O absolutely, but most of these companies don't want to spend money to actually get to that point since they're going to have to redev their applications and design, so they just tell the engineers to put everything one to one in the cloud.

[–] x2XS2L0U@feddit.de -3 points 8 months ago

Haha, so you move from one bad decision to another? Being stuck at a lousy cloud company? Oh my!