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Big Tech passkey implementations are a trap | Proton (proton.me)

submitted 7 months ago by AnActOfCreation@programming.dev to c/technology@lemmy.world

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Big Tech has implemented passkeys in a way that locks users into their platforms rather than providing universal security
Passkeys were developed to replace passwords for better account security, but their rollout by Apple and Google has limited their potential
Proton Pass offers passkeys that are universal, easy to use, and available to everyone for improved online security and privacy.

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I pay $10/year for my wife and I, total. The $40 is if you want 3-6 people. AFAIK, you still need to pay if you self-host and use the premium features, but you can self host on the free plan as well.

$10/year for my wife and I is completely reasonable, and I'd pay the $40/year if my kids needed their own accounts. It's a fantastic service.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you self host you need the $40 plan for two people. Seems kinda backwards, doesn't it?

Yeah, they absolutely don't make that clear or I wouldn't have gone with Bitwarden.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Really? It says it's supported for each account type. It looks like you don't even need the $10/year account anymore for sharing with one other user.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You'd think that based on your link, wouldn't you. I did.

My support ticket response:

Hi Serinus,
There actually isnt a mistake what you are reading is the pricing page for premium individuals, which you already have. But if you check our pricing page for orgs and you are in the free org, you will see that you cannot self-host the free org, as seen here.
You can find more information here; https://bitwarden.com/help/password-manager-plans/#compare-personal-plans
I hope you find this clear and helpful.
Kind regards,
A
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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Your issue is creating an org. The free tier allows again one collection with one user. So don't create an org, share a collection.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

One user can't share a collection with another user. An org is required to share.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'll have to check. I haven't self-hosted mine yet, but I thought the collection share I do with my wife is different.

You could very well be right, which would be disappointing.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

If you discover anything different, I'd love to try it! Currently we're either going to share a single login (which might get odd with 2fa devices) or just use VaultWarden.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago