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"Hmm, these people got arrested for being against genocide. Sounds like a great place for me to work!"
I sure hope you're joking
You may underestimate the ongoing desperation for paid full time work with benefits in the US.
A lot of folk are one paycheck, one tragedy, one road accident or severe sickness away from homelessness.
And homelessness is already criminalized in some counties.
These are not the type of job for someone struggling so much. This is tech work. Googlers are very privileged.
They are, which means they know how dear their position is.
The concern for survival goes right up the hierarchy. Someone who works at Google fears falling out of their career and ending up in a one-paycheck-from-homelessness job. We've seen the same despair among political staffers; getting dismissed by an elected official could end their career in politics, meaning they're one of the rest of us.
Truth be told, I couldn't hack it and serve a toxic boss, but plenty of people would rather work in a cushy job for an evil overlord than a toxic job that is morally clean. That is one of the costs of existing in a society that runs on late-stage capitalism.
Well, I probably cannot get in there anyway so it's a bit moot. Plus it would mean a major relocation. But yeah, I'd happily work on an Israel contract.
Wow, that's disgusting. Have you no morals? Shame on you.
"I sold my moral compass to ~~Lockheed Martin~~ Google for 90k/year and all I got was this lousy T-Shirt"
$200k a year and a pizza party are what his morals are worth, apparently.
There are plenty of people who support Israel and believe it is the moral thing to do. Morals are subjective and arbitrary. They cannot be used to judge one's actions.
Actions can be judged plenty over morals
So, when I say it is my moral obligation to help rid the planet of conservatives because they are evil, I do hope you will not condemn my moral actions.
I don't care.
I am morally obligated to punch all conservative scum until they lose a few teeth :)
Are you trying to be funny?
Are you? You have zero issues with 10s of thousands of innocent people being murdered?
Some of us can resent the genocide committed in the name of our state and civilization, or condoned by our state, while simultaneously being desperate for our personal welfare and also fearing the rising trends of genocide in our own nation, hence we may not only work for genocide-supporting companies to stay alive, but also vote for genocide-condoning neoliberals to vote against fascists.
I hate being in a position like this (and personally don't have to work for any company) but here in the States were imminently fucked and only pushing the fuckery down the calandar.
And few Germans from the days of the reich were forgiven, so I suspect in the aftermath only those Americans who were fed to our detention centers and prisons will ultimately be forgiven, if even them.
If you're so desperate, work for a restaurant or something. Google isn't your only option, I've lived in the high-cost-of-living bay area with all sorts of jobs, including minimum wage jobs. You can make it work without working for Google ffs
It sounds like you got lucky in being able to survive restaurant work and being able to manage surviving in the post-gentrification bay area. Most people are not so lucky.
To be fair, I don't have statistics, and we don't track how many people do morally odious work despite their own ethics because it pays the bills. But we do account for the high numbers of people who tolerate harassment and sexual assault, who tolerate toxic work environments because they need the compensation to eat and pay rent.
If it helps, morally questionable work does tend to have a high-turnover rate, akin to drone operators in the US military and CIA drone strike programs and the Einsatzgrupen of the German Reich. We humans really do lose sleep over doing work that is linked to massacres.
As per all things, life in deteriorating societies can be very challenging, to the point that suicides and rampage killings (which are, more or less, angry suicides) occur at conspicuously elevated levels. But some people are going to club seals sooner than succumbing to their own misery in hopes they can survive long enough they no longer have to club seals to sustain themselves.
There is a lot of in-between from Server to Googler. You're acting like people don't have options.
How about then I just say it, then. People in the US in 2024 are in fact, often that desperate. No, frequently, they do not have options. At best they're choosing between a handful of bad options.
It's just patently untrue, there is no situation in which someone HAS to work at Google. There are so, so many options. Especially for someone educated enough to land a job at Google in the first place.