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[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 32 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

From the article...

Yet, despite an overseas focus, Americans won't be able to avoid the proposal's requirements, which covers CDNs, virtual private servers, proxies, and domain name resolution services, among others.

... and ...

The premise is relatively simple. By having a more rigorous sign-up procedure for platforms such as Amazon’s AWS, for example, the risk of malicious actors using U.S. cloud services to attack U.S. critical infrastructure, or undermine national security in other ways, can be reduced.

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[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 64 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I was thinking of using this comment to train my for-profit LLM, but now that I see the licensing agreement, I know I will never be able weather the prolonged court battles.

[–] msage@programming.dev 6 points 7 months ago

Damn, I was looking forward to the Jesus API

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I was thinking of using this comment to train my for-profit LLM, but now that I see the licensing agreement,

Honestly at this point it's more about just reading the replies from people who get bent out of shape about seeing that link, than actually protecting myself from bots. It's almost like a strange Internet Rorschach test. It's honestly kind of weird how many people respond back negatively to that link.

Having said that, primarily it's an attempt to get AI companies that use bots to not use my comments to train their models, or at least give citation of my name if they do, which I've never seen any company do at this point for anything that they use to train any their models.

I know I will never be able weather the prolonged court battles.

It's a momentary copy and paste, a 'low hanging fruit' thing I can do to try to limit interaction with bots. If it works, it's a bonus.

Also, I'm retired, I have time on my hands. You never know. 🤷

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[–] urist@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

For what it’s worth, I’m entertained by people needing to tell you what they think of your copy paste. It’s fun.

Bring back forum signatures!

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Tryin to make a change :-\

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Tryin to make a change :-\

Be the change you want.

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[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I assume that user is licencing their comments under creative commons

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 44 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is on par with the copypastas that floated around FB for a while isn't it?

[–] spookex@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Now I want to see someone break down if that's even enforceable

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 31 points 7 months ago

Especially given that this particular comment is 90% quotes from some other author.

[–] nevernevermore@kbin.social 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No need to assume, you can see this on all of their comment history. They are claiming ownership of their words, or in the context, ownership of how they’ve arranged others words

[–] MakePorkGreatAgain@lemmy.basedcount.com 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

eh, I could just pirate their words if I so chose & there'd be fuckall they could do about it

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I want to see the first DMCA takedown for a comment "pirating" another user's comment.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I want to see the first DMCA takedown for a comment “pirating” another user’s comment.

-teft

This is mine now.

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 7 points 6 months ago

Release the hounds. I mean lawyers.

[–] MisterMoo@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Big sovereign citizen energy.

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is basically nationally enforced "security through obscurity" which is dumb as fuck.

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is more of a privacy failure than a security failure. I don't see how purchasing services via an alias could be considered security

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"attack US critical infrastructure" is security

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"Security by obscurity" is very much an end user "i don't need to harden my server/accounts because nobody would bother hacking me" attitude and is really is "dumb as fuck"

But KYC is just expanded due diligence before providing services, thats why I thought it as privacy issue as to why someone would be against it as opposed to it security wise.

I still don't see how you've gotten from that to "nationally enforced security by obscurity" though

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Instead of implementing systems that are not vulnerable to attack, they are just removing the people who know how to attack.

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I think we fundamentally disagree on these ideas, and that’s ok.

“Implementing systems that are not vulnerable to attack” is an impossible task. And passing KYC legislation doesn’t preclude anyone from hardening their system and I didn’t read any signs that the government plans to leave any of its systems unhardened.