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How RCS on iPhone Will Make Texting Better for Everyone (www.cnet.com)

submitted 6 months ago by alb_004@lemm.ee to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] tentacles9999@lemmynsfw.com 55 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Last I had looked into it, although the standard exists, they use their own servers and are not compatible with other rcs implementations

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 63 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

They are also the only RCS supplier on Android. A random messaging app can't simply add RCS messaging functionality.

It's not really much of an open standard at all, in practice.

[–] Kid_Thunder@kbin.social 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

They are also the only RCS supplier on Android. A random messaging app can’t simply add RCS messaging functionality.

You are correct that an app can't directly implement RCS but it can support it. RCS is implemented by the carrier, not by Google or any other text application.

RCS is an open standard that any carrier can implement to replace SMS/MMS. The only thing special that Google does is on top of RCS is provides E2E via its own servers for handling messaging. The E2E isn't a part of RCS, though it should be IMO. Regardless, Google doesn't 'own' the Android implementation because it isn't a part of Android, other than it can support the carrier's implementation of RCS.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No app on Android can use RCS yet, other than Google messages.

[–] Kid_Thunder@kbin.social 7 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Not true. Both Samsung and Verizon messages uses RCS, so long as your carrier has implemented RCS.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Samsung had to sign a deal with Google with unknown terms and is Google messages underneath.

Verizon idk, I'm not American.

[–] Kid_Thunder@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Samsung signed a deal so that they can use the Jibe API to be a part of E2E when using RCS.

Since I'm sure there's Internet where you're at, you can take a look from Verizon's RCS roll out on messages+ in 2021 to Samsung's S9, prior to relying on Google Jibe. Verizon did eventually switch to use Jibe for their entire RCS implementation now instead of relying on their own infrastructure as did T-Mobile.

[–] jaagruk@mander.xyz 3 points 6 months ago

Any FOSS or privacy friendly implementation?

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago

Samsung messages is just a reskinned google messages

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

E2EE via server sounds wrong.

[–] Kid_Thunder@kbin.social 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well sure. You've got to trust that Jibe isn't man in the middling the key exchanges but regardless, it doesn't change what I said.

[–] lengau@midwest.social 7 points 6 months ago

And just to note, the same is true of iMessage & Apple.

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

If you didn't create private and exchange public keys with the other party, you aren't fully in control. I'm not saying that as some kind of righteous purist, just a technical point of note.