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TikTok is taking the US government to court.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm sure you can link these security experts. Since that would be classed as malware and the industry standard is to write public reports on that stuff.

And saying they aren't like a US corporation because they do some military contracting is fucking hilarious.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Would it be classified as malware? I think people hand over permissions on their smartphone for most or all of those things on a daily basis without a second thought.

The report on the vast extent of data obtained by TikTok was published by an Australian firm called "Internet 2.0" but it's pay to view. Seems pretty substantial, though, since it hasn't been debunked in the 2 years since it was published. It also scored the highest recorded score on Malcore, owned by Internet 2.0, with a 63.1.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao. They're trying to sell a product. They admit on their blog that the reason their score is so high is the trackers. Which are all from other social media companies and an advertiser. Oh and they counted Google Crashlytics.

TIL I learned good app maintenance is considered a red flag.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they cared about money they wouldn't be threatening to shut down rather than sell.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Internet 2.0 is threatening to shut down?

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah my apologies I thought you meant TikTok when you said "They’re trying to sell a product." It's a pretty common defence and misdirection on these sort of posts.

If you don't trust Internet 2.0 is telling the truth, then how exactly have they evaded defamation lawsuits? Telling lies that negatively impact ByteDance's operations would be grounds for a lawsuit in all 3 of these countries.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because launching a defamation suit is a PR disaster for them right now. Just look at you breathlessly repeating unproven accusations from years ago. They hardly need to blow up new ones.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  1. Allowing yourself to be defamed is a PR Disaster. Suing the US Federal Government is a PR Disaster.
  2. They could have done it years ago when it hit headlines around the world, too.
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well one of those is required if they want to stay in business and the other one hasn't had much bearing on their US business. So I think it's pretty self explanatory.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not. Reports of you being a threat to national security seems to have a lot of bearing when lawmakers are banning you.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We were talking about what TikTok has to do with China, as you seemed to not know how, so you finding their direct obvious ties to China "fucking hilarious" is telling of your intentions.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No that's ByteDance's direct ties. TikTok would be indirect. My intention is to get to the bottom of this but it's constantly just unsourced accusations and conflations. Not to mention excuse after excuse for why we can't just pass an American GDPR. Instead we have to instigate Red Scare 2.0 which is totally not sus.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

ByteDance is not just an indirect tie between TikTok and China, former employees have testified that the TikTok services are centralized in China. The offices in the USA operate like a shell company.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No they haven't. They said they sent head count and engagement data. That's it.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yintao “Roger” Yu said that the CCP had full "supreme access" to all data. SOURCE

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He left ByteDance 4 years before Project Texas. Even if that was happening then there's no evidence it's still happening. But also how is this any different than the US Government telling Facebook it has to share information?

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would the operation that this company was created to carry out no longer be happening, pray tell?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a lot of assumption for no evidence. You might as well ask how TikTok deals with aliens in Area 51.