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The ad itself depicted a mechanical crusher destroying artifacts of human creativity. A trumpet, guitar, sculpture, piano, drawing board, paints, a metronome, several analog cameras, a turntable, and hi-fi equipment were among the much-loved items yielding to the machine's unstoppable force.

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[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So the solution to that is to only make paint-by-numbers music that Apple will allow you to make with their pre approved apps? That sounds like a good way to end up with a lot of mediocre easily digestible music that all sounds the same...

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee -5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

There are plenty of apps that let you do your own thing. Don’t blame the software for musicians being derivative. People have created amazing digital music with significantly less technology. Maybe you just don’t like that people without a formal background (rich people) have the opportunity to make bad (and good) music.

It sounds like your only problem is that you have to use the App Store. So what app was denied by Apple but is available on Android? Yeah, I didn’t think so.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So right. I saw a DJ playing incredible chiptune off’a two original brick gameboys and two LSDJs and it was absolutely amazing. I wish I had the skill to do that.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee -1 points 6 months ago

Have you heard the music they made from programming floppy drives to read music at different speeds?

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I have been playing guitar for nearly 20 years. My family has never been rich, which meant I got the most affordable guitar available (which cost MUCH less than an iPad even accounting for inflation) when I started.

I knew absolutely nothing about how to play it and taught myself for the first year from stuff I found in magazines. When it became apparent that I wasn't going to just abandon the thing in the closet my parents agreed to get me lessons for this costly sum of $25 a week.

Since then I have have scrimped and saved to get nicer instruments when I could afford them, and they mean a lot to me so I take care of them and play them often.

When making music becomes reduced to a game from WHICHEVER app store, it loses all meaning because there is zero invested in it. I'm sure there will be a few people who actually manage to make real music this way despite the limitations, but for most people it will just be a toy they lose interest in like Candy Crush or something.

If it were easy to play decent music then everyone in the world would have a top 10 hit

[–] Dumpdog@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Does anyone know an even slighty successful musician who uses a 5 year old iPad? Now, are there any slightly successful musicians that we can think of that use a 5 year old (affordable) guitar? Or a 5 year old computer? How about a cheap drum machine or sequencer? How about giving a kid anything but a $1000 iPad (or a 5 year old paperweight)

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee -5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I’m sorry your music career didn’t pan out after all that work. Not everyone can be a musician.

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ah, just going straight into troll mode now huh? That's too bad, I was enjoying our conversation...

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee -5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not as bad as your album—oh wait you don’t have one. Maybe if you got an iPad you could make that dream come true.

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I see the confusion here... You think playing music is something one does to get fame and money. What you're describing is a content creator, in which case I can see why having an overpriced toy that makes songs for you would be appealing.

For the record I have, in fact, played for a number of audiences and even recorded several albums with various bands that I've been in over the years. I'm sure you wouldn't have heard any of them because they never really made it beyond the local scene. I'm perfectly fine with that though, because I didn't make them to be famous. I made them because I enjoy the creative process involved in songwriting and performance, because I'm a musician.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Aww good for you, my dude. But it’s pretty mean to say that other people, who have music inside them, should be denied. Not all music made using technology is 100% digital anyway. It’s a studio in your home. It allows people who aren’t able to go into a studio, for whatever reason, to produce near-professional music.

Here’s a thought, if you don’t want to listen to music created using an Apple product, then… don’t.

I’ll get off your lawn now. 😅

[–] Dumpdog@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You are delusional to think even one of the 9 million kids living in poverty in the US would buy a $1000 iPad as a tool to make music. In 5 years that fucking $1000 iPad is only worth cracking open to harvest as e-waste. A kid buying a $50 dollar pawnshop guitar is far more likely to continue to make listenable music than some fucking dipshit buying an iPad. Maybe in 5 years they can sell that guitar for $50 to another kid who will successfully make music. Or maybe they luck out and that guitar is worth $5000. The kid who can afford to buy the $1000 iPad will hopefully use this as a chance to learn about planned obsolesence...

Here's a thought, maybe an iPad is a wasteful piece of garbage technology. Maybe this isn't a rant about technology and preventing opportunities, maybe its a rant against shitty technologies that are wasteful.

Get off all our fucking lawns.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You say from your shitty technological device. Hypocrite

[–] Dumpdog@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

*Frantically types genius rebuttal on iPad

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think somebody here is mixing up performing music and composing it. Which have almost nothing in common.

I haven't touched Apple stuff for composition (don't even know what it is), but I seriously doubt it's going to take away all the headache of learning music theory.

And when you do know music theory, you can use plenty of things for digital music. It's just hard.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee -1 points 6 months ago

I think a lot of people here are confused and angry at clouds.