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[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 276 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Please don't. Just keep providing security updates for an extended time and don't make Win 10 worse with these 'features' that are keeping people away from Win 11.

[–] stardustsystem@lemmy.world 94 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But muh platform growth!?!?! It just needs more AI, that'll get the people upgrading

[–] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] Starkstruck@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago (4 children)

From what I've seen, pretty much everyone from techies to the tech illiterate HATES AI Implementations. Yet corporations keep trying to shovel it down our throats. When are they going to admit no one wants this?

[–] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

They are shoveling it down our throats because the corporations want it. The more they can get it to do without having to pay us poors, the more money they can keep in their pockets. AI has to mine data to learn, so they are trying to put it everywhere to learn. On your OS like copilot doesn't just learn what you type in on a specific site, it learns EVERYTHING you type, everywhere. Then later, Microsoft doesn't need to pay people writing code for them, doesn't need to pay customer service reps. Then they can sell either copilot or its learned data to other companies. WE ARE NOT THE CUSTOMERS, WE ARE THE PRODUCT.

ANYHOOO, I have no idea how AI works, I am talking out my ass, but this is my tinfoil hat rant.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

I mean u missed a couple steps but u got the gist of it.

[–] Halcyon@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 months ago

That's not how AI learns.

[–] JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 11 points 5 months ago

Yep the few people that say "with ai my job has improved" are the people that were shit at their job. Like a dude was so happy on linkedin about how great it is to have chatgpt do the analysis of some csv, it would have been soooo difficult with a spreadsheet...

I have copilot because my company is ms partner and we have all the GitHub stuff and whatnot. It's only useful when creating mock tests and it creates values for variables. Stuff that before I was doing semi manually using a library to create the values during the test. Otherwise the suggestions are plain wrong or so convoluted (and I wouldn't know if they are right because I don't understand what's happening) that I would never allow it in the codebase, it probably took some l337code/codegolf challenge as an example...

[–] ByteMe@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

I think it's obvious. They paid a whole lot of money, it turned out not as life changing as they thought and definitely not as good so they are trying to make us hooked to get back on the money

[–] QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I think when you say "Hates AI" you mean "Hates ChatGPT"

"AI" itself has a lot of awesome uses, ML models with DLSS, robots that can maneuver over different terrain, image generation, audio transcription, etc.

Even with LLMs, I'm fine with them as long as I was the one that was able to pick and choose the model as well as the software to use to run it.

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 3 points 5 months ago

I'm already hallucinating

[–] variants@possumpat.io 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's the point, make wi does 10 worse so people will update

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But W10 likely won’t ever get the “feature” of OCRing your entire workspace and serializing the results to plaintext.

[–] JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nah. That would require them to retroactively change the hardware requirements for the OS, which they’re simply not going to do.

[–] urska@lemmy.ca -2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Just switch to Linux, problem solved.

[–] Wootz@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Sure, will you call the it admin where I work and tell him I'm switching?

I want to switch to Linux just as much as you, but at work I have literally zero influence over this. Private OS choice and enterprise / corporate are very different things, and businesses refusing to switch away from Windows is a very big reason why Microsoft's behaviour lately is a big deal.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Some problems:

  • Stability. For me, Linux on a VM (where I'm using it for development and getting myself familiarized with it) was a stability nightmare. Everything could go wrong after an update (I'm looking at you, Ubuntu 24.04), or even a restart, with no easy way to recover.
  • Lack of an easy recovery. On Windows, you can recover your OS from a faultry update easily. If a bit more things have gone wrong, just use the installer, to resurrect your own installation. On Linux, you're on your own, and while sometimes it's an easy fix, other times you're better off reinstalling your OS, leading you to have to restart a lot of other things, which leads to lost time that could have spent better with doing something productive. I've wasted hours on recovering data from a Ubuntu 24.04 installation which decided to no longer work in GUI mode, and it ultimately ruined my sleep schedule.
  • A lot of settings are hidden deep within config files, which need manual editing, and even worse, googling, which on today's internet, will likely lead you to an AI generated site filled with garbage. I managed to kill the Linux installation on my Raspberry Pi, which lead me to the previous point of having to reinstall, then having to google even more settings because Raspberry Pi OS had the great idea in the newer versions to "make setup easier", thus tieing your location settings and your keyboard layout, so I had a Hungarian layout that I had to change, as it's horrible to use for software development (a lot of commonly used characters are on the Alt Gr layer, and there's only one Alt Gr key, the other Alt is a dedicated menu key - thanks IBM!).
  • Production software and drivers. While Wine is fine for a lot of games, but try to use software with way more sophisticated copy protection schemes. They're already a pain to use on Windows with the original keys and such, now imagine them on a Windows emulator. Good luck with trying to find VST plugins, which copy protection can be 100% removed!

I'm not a good UX designer, but my first two rules for anything GUI related are:

  1. If it can be done by a single button press, it should be a single button press on the GUI.
  2. If it can be an easy configuration, it should be an easy configuration on the GUI.

Linux, alongside with many other projects in the FOSS community, regularly fail both of these, in favor of scripts, which are fine, but have their own issues. Your average user's average usecase does not involve "very repetitive tasks that are just perfect for some shell scripts".

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

I'm not here to argue that Linux is flawless if you just do this one obvious trick, but rather to say, for you in particular, with the issues you described: You might enjoy openSUSE more.

It comes with filesystem snapshots out-of-the-box. As in zero setup. And you can rollback to a previous snapshot from the bootloader, even if your system does not boot anymore.
So, assuming neither your filesystem nor hardware broke (and you noticed the breakage right away), it takes 5 minutes to get back to a working state.

It also comes with an extensive system settings GUI, called "YaST". It certainly does not completely absolve you from touching config files. It also will not make you weap from how intuitive of a GUI it is. But it is a GUI and it covers lots of the common stuff that one might tweak on a computer.

I do also find openSUSE to be less error-prone than Ubuntu in general (my workplace makes me use the latter).

Main downside of openSUSE: It is more niche. The community is smaller. When you do run into an error, there's fewer articles out there to help you. In particular, setting up specialty software like DAWs, VSTs etc., you may find less help for.

But the small community is more tight-knit and consists of lots of folks with higher expertise, so if you ask in the forum or some other place where the community hangs out, you will usually still get rather excellent help (and perhaps better help than what search engines unearth these days).

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Ubuntu is bad, that's why you are having stability issues. Stop using it.

Also it's dead easy to recover a Linux installation that has snapshots. Just boot the previous snapshot and go. Also could just use an immutable Linux if not breaking things is your main concern.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, let's get rid of a checks notes a common and basic feature of an OS, because it's trendy with some programming languages to set everything to const, because people are not being taught what a debugger is and how to solve these issues with them...

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Android and ChromeOS are also immutable, this isn't just a trend. Stop being insufferable. You don't have to go to using immutable OSes, using something sensible and stable with snapshotting would work just fine. Like OpenSUSE, or Fedora. Setting snapshots up on Debian I think is more work but still doable.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I think you also want to call me a tourist, mallcore, fashiongoth, fake metal Linux user, for not wanting to join the Arch cult...😉

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

Also the reason I am recommending you move away from Ubuntu is because of what Canonical has done. I actually was a fan of earlier versions of Ubuntu, even Unity.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

Erm, no lol. I don't even use Arch. I've tried it don't get me wrong, but I don't understand the fascination with it personally.