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[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

In terms of specifications all I can find is that this has a 2.0GHz 8-core RV64 processor with Vector. That's not a lot of info.

Does anybody know anything more about it? Performance level, battery life, etc. I expect this is really a phone or SBC level processor, so it should sip power, right?

[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Do not expect this thing to be a daily driver. It's aimed at developers who need a Risc-V testing platform. Very few Software will run on it unless you can spend hours making it compile for Risk-V and lets not talk about drivers. Also it will likely cost over $1000.

I am exited for the future of Risc-V in the consumer space, but we aren't there yet.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

Ok that makes more sense... The price point didn't match the specs for a consumer product

[–] itsnotits@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

let's* not talk about

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Performance level

Not good. That bench is from a BananaPi with the same SoC, via reddit (sorry).

Maybe about an A55. If you want a performant RISC-V you've gotta wait until stuff leaks out of the European Supercomputer stuff onto the market though that one probably won't have good IPC either unless it's vector, or maybe one of the big chip design companies will grace us with a chip with a RISC-V insn decoder.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think those will have to have fairly good IPC, otherwise they won't be able to keep the array processors fed with work.

Guess we'll see.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

You can keep the array processors fed with low IPC and frequency by having absolutely massive vector lengths, the engineering for that kind of processor isn't in the pipeline, branch prediction etc. it's in the APUs and how to stream data into them. Much more like GPUs, in fact RISC-V has instructions for gather/scatter.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 points 5 months ago

Disagree. You quite often have a fair degree of scaler code in between portions which are embarrassingly parallel. If you don't have a decent scaler core you are destined to be become bottlenecked on them. It's not that different to a CPU / GPU pairing. If one is under powered, it determines the speed of the overall system.

If you look at what a company like Tenstorrent is doing, they are designing high performance Risc-V cores as a side aspect of their main goal of doing array processors. The reason is because they couldn't find scaler cores on the market with enough performance to not bottleneck the system.