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Man sues Apple for accidentally exposing his infidelity (appleinsider.com)

submitted 5 months ago by Stopthatgirl7@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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A British man is ridiculously attempting to sue Apple following a divorce, caused by his wife finding messages to a prostitute he deleted from his iPhone that were still accessible on an iMac.

In the last years of his marriage, a man referred to as "Richard" started to use the services of prostitutes, without his wife's knowledge. To try and keep the communications secret, he used iMessages on his iPhone, but then deleted the messages.

Despite being careful on his iPhone to cover his tracks, he didn't count on Apple's ecosystem automatically synchronizing his messaging history with the family iMac. Apparently, he wasn't careful enough to use Family Sharing for iCloud, or discrete user accounts on the Mac.

The Times reports the wife saw the message when she opened iMessage on the iMac. She also saw years of messages to prostitutes, revealing a long period of infidelity by her husband.

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[–] hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

To me gender isn’t isn’t relevant here, even if the kid is way older. The violation of privacy however is.

I don’t recall the age I had to teach my kid not to film me taking a shower or a dump. I believe by the age of 5 they had their own mind when they wanted to be filmed/have their picture taken.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Just to be clear, it's a child taking pictures of an adult (the child's biological parent too), not the other way around.

[–] hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Just to be clear by the age of 3-4 a child should be aware of the concept of not taking what belongs to others including their pictures.

If your SO was fine with their phone being used to take nudes of them it would not be an issue. However in your 1st comment you state they are not.

The kids is old enough to understand boundaries and the word “no”. If that behavior is limited to your own household then fine you do you. It never is though.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It sounds like you don't have kids. This is my third, and this point has been different for each. My first was pretty quick (around 3yo), my second was a bit later (around 5 1/2), and this one seems closer to the second than the first.

Understanding "no" and actually obeying are two very different things, and it usually takes 2-3 times before the child understands. The child in question seems to still be learning contexts, as in taking pictures is fine sometimes, but not when someone is getting ready to take a shower. The child doesn't apparently see "naked person X," but instead "person X," so that's also being learned. Being a child can be confusing.

Fortunately, we don't have any automatic syncing, so it's not an issue for us to delete the image and reprimand the child. But it could be an issue for someone else.

[–] hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It should be very obvious that I have kids just as well as it is obvious that you seem to be outsourcing parenting.

Of course kids are different, that’s true for every living being. Of course setting boundaries is hard, in my observation it requires way more that 2-3 times teaching - sometimes way way more. Especially when it’s an important thing that’s also fun like „don’t run across the (busy) street” or “don’t touch the hot thing” or whatever is going on with your phones.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

Then you understand that "don't take pictures of mommy/daddy naked" isn't a one-time affair. It happens, we respond to it, and that repeats a few times over the course of weeks or months until the behavior stops. It's not an everyday thing (we are better stewards of our mobile devices and kids than that), but it happens.

And there are different forms of "no," there's the gentle "no" when a child takes a snack just before dinner, and there's the firm "no" of crossing a street by themselves. The first is way less effective than the second, but if you always use the second, both will be ineffective. Something like taking a picture of a parent naked isn't an emergency, it's easily reversible and relies on understanding social norms the child hasn't encountered (e.g. we'll shower with young children sometimes, we'll take them to locker rooms, etc, so there are mixed messages). So we reserve the second for true emergencies, and those lessons are learned quickly.

My point is that children are unpredictable, and often throw an annoying wrench into everyday things. Ideally, amy damage they do is easily reversible, such as deleting that nude picture from a phone a few minutes after being taken.