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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If you pay for YouTube premium, you're a clown and you're only fueling the enshittification.

[–] slimarev92@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Ads are bad (I agree).

Paying for things is bad.

Then what's left? YouTube should somehow be ad free and free of cost for the user forever and ever? Who's gonna pay for the enormous costs of operating the service?

People are going to start yelling at me about capitalism and enshitiffication. Both of which cause problems, but what do you propose here? Magic?

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I propose YouTube make a MUCH better premium product and price it correctly. Paying for things is fine. Paying for things to get crappier? Na

[–] slimarev92@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How is YouTube getting crappier for me as a paying customer? I feel like it hasn't really changed in years.

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Glad you enjoy it. Keep doing your thing. But are you seriously deaf to the rising chorus of complaints about YouTube? This thread contains many examples of youtube's enshitification over the few couple years. Your question feels disingenuous at best to me

[–] slimarev92@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Name one complaint, other than blocking people with ad blockers. How has the actual product changed?

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The worsening of recommendations/algorithm pointing to more crap content

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The death of Google music

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Inability to purchase only YouTube music

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Inability to remove shorts from homescreen (decision reversed due to consumer outcry)

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Price increases

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Increased family plan sharing restrictions

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

4k premium only (decision reversed due to consumer outcry)

[–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 year ago

I'm not opposed to paying for online services in general, I'm just not going to pay them to make the site worse with every update. (Plus I kinda categorically refuse to give Google money at this point.)

[–] MentorKitten@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago

I'll still call someone a clown for paying even if I'm able to acknowledge that someone has to hold the bag. Just ain't gonna me or hopefully anyone I care about.

[–] AProfessional@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Youtube might be the literal most valuable site in my life, up there with Wikipedia and search engines.

A large part of my payment also goes to the channels I view.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really? I watch very little Youtube, so I'd rather not use it than pay $10+ for it. I'm currently able to block ads, so I'll watch as long as that's an option.

[–] AProfessional@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, it has news, educational, and entertaining content. It’s a lot of value for me.

[–] Veneroso@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Unpopular opinion, but I also use YouTube almost exclusively.

It has my podcasts, my political livestreamers, late night shows, and multiple channels that I follow.

I also enjoy YouTube music as well.

I bought a full year, which lowers the price a little.

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you watch ads instead of paying a modest fee to remove them then you're a clown. Companies do need to make money for the services they provide, I just disagree with the amount.

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

“Modest?” $14 a month? $5 would be modest. I literally pay less for whole as streaming services.

I'd probably pay $5, and I'd certainly pay $2-3. But I don't watch enough to justify $10+/month.

[–] fatalError@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you watch enough youtube per month to see an hour of ads and you can't block ads for some reason, you may actually be losing time/money by not paying the subscription. That said, there are ad blockers for almost every platform so it shouldn't be too difficult to find one that works.

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I pay less than 5usd for a family plan, I just subscribed through a developing nation with a VPN.

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which, as the article states, they are starting to end that practice.

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That was my comment about the amount that should be charged. I'll happily pay $5/mo, but not $15. I'm happy to pay for services, just not the amount that many want to charge.

They make enough off of all my data they collect. I'm not paying them a cent for anything and I'm not watching a single ad. If you want to watch ads for shareholders, you are most definitely a clown.