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Windows 11 is getting out of hand with its push for advertisments, frankly - remember the recent full-screen pop-up to persuade users to install Edge or other Microsoft services? Then another advertisment was placed in the Start menu, and now Microsoft has finally worn my temper thin - with a new Game Pass ad coming to the Settings app.

This will likely arrive in the July update for Windows 11, or at least it’s almost certain to do so. It was present in the latest preview update Microsoft just released for the OS (and quickly paused due to a bug, but that’s another story). It’s also worth noting that the ad has been present in earlier test versions of Windows 11.

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[–] mtchristo@lemm.ee 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Microsoft is so confident in its desktop marketshare that they allow themselves to push the overton window on what users will tolerate.

The only competitor they can lose users to is Apple. And even then not everyone can afford an Apple computer, especially in the rest of the world

[–] nadram@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Forget Apple. Without buying any new hardware, i managed to replace Windows with Ubuntu just a month ago. My most hated moment on windows was the time i saw the onedrive ad in file explorer... That felt way too intrusive.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Dont forget that the vast majority of users either doesnt know Linux, distrusts Linux, has heard rumors at any point in time about some feature or component not working as perfectly as under windows, is uninterested in computers beyond their daily usage function, or finds themselves in a social circle or job environment hostile to Linux.

What Linux needs to get widely adopted is settle for one central distro, iron out all bugs and compatibility issues and do a bunch of testing with windows users to determine what differences they are confused by. The goal must be to create total feature and compatibility parity with windows, and make the whole process so incredibly simple that even absolute morons with zero interest in computers can both use it instinctively and not miss anything their windows used to do. Then run a massive adoption campaign.

Now I know many aspects of this are directly opposed to the fos ethos, but if Linux ever wants to claim market share they need to spend big on it and pick up the users where they are; in a place of zero user ability and a lot of ignorance.

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (3 children)

i think the only way Linux is increasing it's market share beyond fringe enthusiasts (that's us) is by more devices coming with it pre-installed. expecting anyone outside of the tech space to change the operating system their device came with is a pipe dream

[–] jas0n@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Get it in the schools. It's a bad habit from many people's childhood that they need to break. Make that original habit not suck.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago

Cosmic desktop can do this. They already have similar history.

[–] mtchristo@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

OEM have no incentive to ship Linux in their laptops. Plus they get discounts from Microsoft for using windows. So that's not gonna happen

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What Linux needs to get widely adopted is settle for one central distro

One central distro guarantees its eventual enshittification. I'm happy with the knowledge that if my distro enshittifies I can just move to a different one.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm not saying we should shutter all the others or make a Linux for profit corporation, just that if there is a sort of "base" Linux that can be used and referenced as universally as windows, with the same capability, stability and compatibility, catering to the same crowd of dumbest possible user, that would go a long way in my opinion in getting Linux more widely adopted.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

I believe Mint is designed for ease of installation and use, and similarity to Windows.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

finds themselves in a social circle or job environment hostile to Linux.

Ugh. Tell me about it.

I haven't tried to run the latest Corel graphics suite in Wine recently, but the last time I did it exploded in my face so spectacularly I think my eyebrows still haven't fully grown back. I really need that to work for... work. Basically everything else I already use is FOSS anyway.