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[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 4 months ago (3 children)

There is currently no implementation of web standards that is under a more permissive license than LGPL or MPL. I think that is a gap worth filling and if I recall that is what Ladybird is doing.

[–] glukoza@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago

i'd argue its better for software to max foss license like AGPL, not bsd that can be taken out by companies

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I guess Chromium isn't fully BSD. This could be the reason. Although I'd think reimplementing the non-BSD bits in Chromium would be less work than reimplementing all the bits, including the BSD ones.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 4 months ago

Chromium and WebKit both still have bits from KHTML in them which is LGPL

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why is that a gap worth filling? There is no benefit to users as long as its free of a EULA they don't have to care either way. For those wanting to produce open source software based on same they already have all the rights they could need. The only party clamoring for permissively licensed software are companies intending to close off the source and sell other people's work.

I understand why they would want to do that I don't understand why anyone would feel the need to work for free for something someone else closes off.

[–] phlegmy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There are some cases where it’s just not possible to release the source code, even if you wanted to.

For example, if you’re developing a Nintendo switch game, you aren’t allowed to release any code that uses Nintendo’s sdk, so that means you also can’t use any copyleft libraries.

Maybe MPL-licensed libraries would be ok though. Idk, I’m not a lawyer.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why would open source code be released with the intention of helping people who wont or can't give back?

[–] phlegmy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why not?
I’ve been in situations where I couldn’t release the code to a project, but I was able to use some decent libraries because they were MIT licensed.
So I’m happy to do the same for libraries I write so that others in similar situations could also receive the same benefit I did.
I see it as an act of public goodwill, like paying it forward for the times you can’t directly contribute to another project.

Just my personal view on it, anyway.
I’m not claiming it’s a bulletproof solution or that it isn’t open to being ‘abused’.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's an act of public goodwill to rich corporations who could get the same privilege by paying for a separate license.

[–] phlegmy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

It’s an act of goodwill for all developers.

You’re free to believe it’s a simple black/white “us vs them” issue, but I choose to see the world as more nuanced then that.