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Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC), one of the world’s largest advanced computer chip manufacturers, continues finding its efforts to get its Arizona facility up and running to be more difficult than it anticipated. The chip maker’s 5nm wafer fab was supposed to go online in 2024 but has faced numerous setbacks and now isn’t expected to begin production until 2025. The trouble the semiconductor has been facing boils down to a key difference between Taiwan and the U.S.: workplace culture. A New York Times report highlights the continuing struggle.

One big problem is that TSMC has been trying to do things the Taiwanese way, even in the U.S. In Taiwan, TSMC is known for extremely rigorous working conditions, including 12-hour work days that extend into the weekends and calling employees into work in the middle of the night for emergencies. TSMC managers in Taiwan are also known to use harsh treatment and threaten workers with being fired for relatively minor failures.

TSMC quickly learned that such practices won’t work in the U.S. Recent reports indicated that the company’s labor force in Arizona is leaving the new plant over these perceived abuses, and TSMC is struggling to fill those vacancies. TSMC is already heavily dependent on employees brought over from Taiwan, with almost half of its current 2,200 employees in Phoenix coming over as Taiwanese transplants.

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[–] aaaaace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 79 points 3 months ago (5 children)

3 new chip fabs open recently around phx, which is in low-altitude desert, has had water supply issues for so long there's a canal running from the Colo river through it all the way to Tucson.

Which is fed by a reservoir so low they find old mobster kills in barrels and might have to stop making power.

Why so stupid and short-sighted?

Ah, "faith-based".

And a Republican governor made the deals. Who also allowed water to be used to grow alfalfa that's sent to Saudi to feed their horses.

$$$ + no sense

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Cows not horses. Peninsular Arabs are some of the few populations on Earth with the mutation that allows for lactose tolerance among adults. It developed over millennia of having nothing else to consume.

[–] aaaaace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 months ago

Interesting...the company I applied to told me that it was grown and stored to be flown to Saudi for feeding thoroughbred horses. No mention of cows.

[–] jf0314@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

76% of AZ water use is for agriculture, but that's besides the point. I've read that most of the water used in a fab gets recycled, so once up and running, water usage isn't as much if an issue as you'd think.

[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 months ago

Agriculture probably shouldn't be happening in deserts

[–] AliasVortex@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You raise very valid points, and water usage (and over allocation) is a huge issue but it is worth mentioning that Arizona has fairly consistent and predictable weather, decently reliable power grids (with access to cleaner energy sources like solar, hydro, and nuclear), and is pretty seismically stable.

Don't get me wrong, water consumption is going to be a huge issue once these plants really get going, but I don't think it's entirely stupid and nonsensical to park them where they did.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just more evidence that conservatism is not a legitimate foundation for governance. Conservatism should be a disqualifier for positions of government leadership.

[–] aaaaace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Intel has been receiving billions during the current administration and the last 2 generations of processors are defective.

They had to reanimate Gelsinger to try to save Intel from shitty decisions and are still flailing.

Meanwhile people on SSA have to fight for disability and achools for supplies, unless they're voucher factories.

Govt still using predatory vendors like Google, Adode, and Microsoft in schools, so teaching students how to use subscription software rather than alternatives.

I think the problem is revolving doors between regulation and regulated entities.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Agreed.

I think progressive policies replacing existing conservative (incl. neoliberal) policies would go a long way to combat corporatocracy and kleptocracy.

It may not solve everything, but it might at least put some goddamn limits in place until we can find ways to overcome human greed.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This was a bipartisan screw up, Biden after all led the initiative

[–] jf0314@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Where do you think our cops are going to come from when China invades Taiwan? This was necessary.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Then don't blame the Republican governor xd. That's my point.