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[–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 115 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (29 children)

That is some savage shit. If Eminem were at the table, he would have taken notes.

Edit: I mean, yeah, he did go overboard, but that Israeli guy started it with the stupid ass potato joke. That shit was (1) uncalled for and (2) played out. If the Israeli guy goes to HR, they need to reprimand his ass, too, for trying to being offensive and sucking at it. At least my man here knows how to strike. You want him on your team.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 94 points 2 months ago (28 children)

The potato joke is also a joke about a genocide.

[–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] superkret@feddit.org 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

The Irish genocide is far enough in the past to have become sort of "folklore".
No one who experienced it is still alive or in living memory.
That makes it better suited for small talk, and not equivalent to the Israeli genocide.

[–] vind@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Oh it's still in living memory, Ireland and Irish culture still hasn't recovered from it.

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The population has barely recovered, in fact. If i recall correctly, it was within the past five years that the Irish population exceeded pregenocide levels.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

Just googled it

Pre-genocide it was8.2-8.5 million, today it's 5.1

They're still 60-67% of what their population was before

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can't hold a potato if both hands are full of grudges, though. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, cause the english definetly haven't continued fucking over Ireland since then. /s

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 4 points 2 months ago

Tiocfaidh ár lá

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

By that logic we'll be allowed to laugh about Jews and ovens in about 60 years, right?

[–] superkret@feddit.org -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't know what you mean by "allowed", AFAIK there is no western country (not even Germany) where it would be illegal. I don't know the law in Israel.
My friends and me made lots of those jokes 30 years ago.
Not proud of it at all, but we were edgy 12-year-olds.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 months ago

I'm guessing allowed by taste, not by law.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 months ago

Also, unlike the Shoa/Holocaust, it's not that commonly known that the potato famine was a genocide, inflicted by the english.

That doesn't make the Iseraeli's comment ok. Just that they probably didn't know how much their comment was in bad taste.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Would you mind explaining what happened? I don't know anything about Irish History.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They were colonized by the British and essentially taxed through landlords above their ability to produce, but were allowed to support themselves on potatoes, which was okay (not really) until there was a blight damaging the potato crops, which brought on huge amounts of emigration and led to over a million people starving to death. If you want to read more

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 4 points 2 months ago

Thanks. Now I understand, why that joke was quite an asshole joke.

[–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 2 points 2 months ago

I'd like to tangentially add that Irish people are possible the most chillest when it comes to their ethnicity and identity. About 11 years ago, I got obsessed with pretending I was Irish for a few months during and after dating an Irish-American girl. I had a terrible fake accent, drank Jameson or Maker's Mark, bragged about my fame with Irish good-bye's, etc. I am in no way Irish in the slightest, and I don't think anyone would even think that. Not one Irish person seemed offended. If anything, they welcomed it and found it entertaining at the least. I think that if I did that with any other ethnicity, people would at least be offended if not angry and retaliatory.

Anyone else experience this? If so, any insight on why this may be?

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