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So are you denying that
Or did you specifically leave the context out because you can't refute it?
It's anti-semitic and doesn't make sense?
https://www.aipacpac.org/2024election
I'm saying the global imperialist hegemon created a base for pushing and encouraging their global imperialist policies and that includes pushing said policies back to the homeland.
The whole works to ensure the individual stays in line.
How? "Just doing my job" didn't absolve Nazis and SS soldiers, it doesn't absolve the US.
I personally do believe the US would prefer the genocide not be happening, as it's bad for business, especially during an election year where more eyes are on politics.
But the rest of what Israel brings is too valuable to the US global goals, so it goes along with Israel to preserve that and is therefore controlled on issues that Israel chooses to exert control over.
The US could theoretically not allow themselves to be controlled. But that's not the reality.
And Israel does this for nothing in return? Just like they give money to specific politicians for nothing in return?
It's a mutual relationship. btw...
Are absolving Israel of its role in the genocide by saying it's just a tool of the US?...
This is nonsense. Who has more economic power, the US or Israel?
Apologies, you are right actually.
Israel doesn't control the US.
BOTH are controlled by the will of the bourgeois and this is as far as any analysis is allowed to go, doing any further analysis would be nonsense.
You think your antisemtic trope is analysis?
The anti-semitic trope being what exactly?
You're really pretending you can't see the trope you've tripled down on? Its ZOG. Its the one way to criticize Isreal that actually is antisemitic
I don't think it's anti-semitic to observe the reality around us, the fact that ZOG exists doesn't mean I can't observe the ways in which Israel exerts control over US politics and opinions. As I pointed out in another comment, they provided historical funding to a pro-israel candidate to oppose Cori Bush, is it "Zog" to point out that Israel exerted control there?
That's a lot of words to double down on an antisemitic trope
Smol bean US being controlled by their own vassal that couldn't exist without their support. This is really deep analysis. You are a very deep thinker.
Strawmans are really fun.
It is not a strawman you are literally doubling and tripling down on an antisemitic trope known as ZOG. It is an unambiguously neo-Nazi talking point self crit my dude.
Is it anti-semitic "Zog" narrative to say that Israel bought, and therefore control the outcomes in, Missouri District ? (Cori Bush lost to a pro-israel candidate which attained historical funding from AIPAC)
Edit: it's not black and white where Israel controls America OR America controls Israel.
They both control each other in different ways/on different issues. It's not anti-semitic to point out the fact that Israel exerts control over the US sometimes.
Everyone arguing with you is anti-zionist. We want Isreal as it exists to end. If you care about the injustice and genocide of that fascist settler-colonial state, then I don't get why you want to die on the hill of an antisemitic position
Okay? I never said otherwise.
I don't think it's anti-semitic to observe the reality around us. As I asked above,
I'm not saying anything about shadow Jewish cabals controlling governments. I'm talking about the objective ways we can all see Israel exert control on U.S politics and opinions.
Edit: also
Do you not want Israel as a whole to end? Do you wish to reform them?
Yes.
Good to know.
Maybe if you think calling out all of the objectively true things Israel does equals the Zog narrative, maybe you are the one who believes in the Zog narrative.
I personally can seperate Israel from the Jewish people and don't think that Israels objectively controlling certain aspects of US politics reflects on Jewish people or Judaism at all, but instead solely on the colonial zionist entity of Israel which doesn't represent Jewish people or Judaism.
(Edit: and any country which had the leverage Israel has would be using it for their advantage as well, Israel just happens to be the one in that unique position.)