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A vehicle shutting down in the middle of the freeway can easily cause multiple accidents.
I don't know how you got to the conclusion that OP was saying "all" and not being hypothetical.
According to this comment thread and the article, these cars have abruptly stopped functioning with no warning. Do you not think it is only a matter of time before that occurs in a dangerous situation? Insurance companies base their decisions on statistics and probabilities. It is very much related to "hypotheticals".
You did not.
This was the first time you made this point, so not sure why you say "again".
They likely won't disclose the real reasons. However I'm yet to be convinced that reliability wasn't taken into account.
It’s rare for normal cars to shut down with no warning.
It’s pretty common for cybertrucks to do it.
Eventually that’s gonna happen on a highway. Insurance works by assuming the worst thing that can happen will happen and charging you appropriately. It’s far from irrelevant in this case.
The go pedal and the steering wheel are equivalent to a keyboard/mouse and are not physically connected to anything. If the car shuts off, the wheels go where they feel like with absolutely no driver control.
Never thought of they how would you brake if the car shutoff.
The brake pedal.
How well does that work after losing vacuum assist?
Definitely not as well but you can still use them. Cars didn't even have vacuum assisted brakes up into the 1960s and 1970s
Yes, and they were designed with that in mind- brake pedals with more leverage for one...
My mom had a Ford ranger for a while that had lost its brake boost, it took a lot of force to get it to slow down, and that wasn't even a heavy vehicle, this was back when a pickup was a two-seater...
Did you really just draw an equivalency between Tesla’s software practices and the aerospace industry? Even Daddy Musk isn’t stupid enough to pretend those are the same.
Also your assertion that there is “no such thing as off” blatantly displays your horrible lack of understanding that distributed computing still relies on electricity.
Edit: since Tesla is apparently the same thing as Airbus, can you point me to the source code published by the relevant regulatory body that controls the Cybertruck’s steering mechanism?
Yes, I fully understand the difference between analogy and equivalency. You claimed that fly by wire on an aircraft is exactly as safe and redundant as the steering wheel of a Tesla vehicle. That’s called an equivalency and is a demonstrably false statement. I never claimed that there were no redundancies to the power supplies, but it’s simply not relevant. You do understand that there are different regulations and rigors applied to an aircraft compared to a crappy car that hasn’t even passed any crash safety testing and hasn’t been certified by any engineering standards bodies, right?
The only good news here is that the regulators in your country aren’t stupid enough to let you operate this machine near your fellow humans.
Your comments sounds exactly like that.
https://x.com/Chovis38/status/1793100842805191001
Edit to add https://insideevs.com/news/722534/tesla-cybertrucks-still-breaking-down/
You requested evidence, I was attempting to provide evidence. Copy paste of last line of the Twitter post.
Ok, I missed the word and. My apologies. This is an example of any. I guess it's not all as the screen still worked. Truck won't move, but you don't care about that.
Have you looked at the cybertruck’s manufacturing practices? Airplanes have redundancies for their redunancies and that’s why people use them. The cybertruck was built with the “go fast and break things” model, does not have redundancies, and actually removed some standard safety features found in every other car. Like tempered glass.
Comparing a cyber truck to an airplane is like comparing a pinewood derby car to a military personnel carrier. One was made by a child. The other is engineered to keep as many soldiers alive as possible.
On the internet, anyone can say anything. I am the Pope.
The point is on your head.
They do when it shuts down while driving and careens into another vehicle.
No one is saying it's actually happened. It is a fact though that they are shutting down while driving which introduces a higher risk of it happening which the insurance companies don't want to take.
I can steer to the shoulder of the road in a traditional vehicle hit the brakes. Can I do that in a cyber truck?