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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/18270004

Choose the planet, choose Ecosia: why you’re going to be asked to pick a search engine

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[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 62 points 8 months ago (2 children)

no, thank you?

We will ask for your consent to implement Microsoft Clarity when you receive results from Microsoft Bing. Microsoft Clarity captures how you interact with our website through behavioral metrics in individual search sessions and is not tied to a user profile. The information is used for site and advertising optimization, as well as fraud protection. For more information about how Microsoft collects and uses your data, visit Microsoft’s privacy statement and Microsoft Clarity documentation.

Microsoft Bing does also offer personalized search results and ads. This service requires a cookie to be set on your browser which creates a personal profile. We will ask for your consent before enabling this and you can change your choice at any time in your cookie preferences.

Internally, we anonymize your IP address after a maximum of 7 days. Microsoft will anonymize your IP address after 6 months, and if you consent to receive Google search results, your IP address will be anonymized after 9 months. For more information on how our search partners handle your data, please see their privacy statements linked below.

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Can someone explain to me like I’m cognitively bankrupt how an AI that keeps a behavioural profile on me based on what I search will help with fraud prevention?

[–] catastrophicblues@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think the idea is that behavior that seems abnormal, or a significant departure from your norm might be seen as fraud. I’m not sure what kind of fraud you’d experience in a search engine, but here we are. If I had to make a charitable guess, maybe it’s related to you possibly being logged in somewhere and a fraudster may visit those websites (like shopping websites)? I personally think it’s bullshit with a laughably weak veil of security.

By the way, I love the term, “cognitively bankrupt” lol, I’m stealing it.

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago

Ur not stealing it ur pirating it ;)

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.social 10 points 8 months ago

I used to use them and stopped for a while, and now they pull this crap?

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Alongside our climate action, we have always campaigned for a fairer, more sustainable internet. We’re the only search engine that gives all of its profits to the planet and we compete with some of the biggest companies in the world, so we’ve been pushing them to give alternative search engines a fair chance. And it’s paying off!

Sure, fella, that was all you. I follow that issue very closely, can't say Ecosia has really been a driving force behind it. I've never heard of them, in fact. Why do they feel the need to lie? I wouldn't use them even if they weren't reskinned Bing just for the above paragraph alone, can't really trust a company that lies about stuff it doesn't even need to lie about.

[–] ExcursionInversion@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago (3 children)
[–] Gamers_Mate@kbin.social 18 points 8 months ago

Basically a Bing front-end that uses ad money to plant trees.

[–] Bogasse@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Most search engines are just bing. Search engines are roughly in the same state of non-diversity as web browsers :/

[–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

if brave goes eco friendly il drop ecosia (mostly)

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why not use DDG or something (also Bing) and just donate like $5 or whatever to a tree planting service?

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Yes, but slower (default search at my company, changed it after a few minutes)

[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)
[–] Starkstruck@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

Using a technology known for high energy cost and increase in emissions seems very counterproductive to their goals lol

[–] gaael@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

Sounds great for the planet ! /s

[–] ShadowCat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

asking it its name is not a reliable way to determine which model it is, gpt 4 still thinks it's gpt3 (the reason it answers correctly on openai website is because they tell it that in the system prompt)

[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

Alright, well, I haven't got more time to spend on hacking the prompts to get it to disclose intel. So that's the best I got.

[–] BoisZoi@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

I’d rather directly use Bing and utilize the 'Give with Bing' feature to donate to a non-profit of choice; when I did use Bing, I did it for LGBT and LGBT Youth.

[–] Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 2 points 8 months ago

Id rather not

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ecosia is scam. Use a bookmark collection, go out, meet some friends, your internet searches are not the biggest problem.

i do not give a fuck.