What?? I thought cloudflare is good. Free Ddos protection, etc.
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Single point of failure for the whole internet.
Only because no one does what they do as well as they do it.
If they had competition, that wouldn't be the case. Sadly, there are very few other good guys out there...
What about akamai? Other CDNs and the like.
There exists competition, they've just been doing it consistently well at a large scale for awhile.
They've done nothing to prevent competition, because they're legit AF. The competition just hasn't put a dent in their market share because they're excellent at what they do.
I wouldn't call clourflare a single point.
Their management control plane absolutely is a single point of failure.
If cloudflare goes down you can just update DNS to not use it …
Well the admin of a site could opt out of using cloudflare for the time being, a user could do literally nothing. Errors in Cloudflare can easily take down their servers and therefore the CDN and access to like 20% of websites. And Bugs in Cloudflare can even leak user data.
So cloudflare can grant DDOS Protection, CDNs and other exploiting protection, but can take down large parts of everything, temporarily or permanently.
Agreed, and I would say what cloudflare does for the internet (their work on the IETF, generally letting small sites stay alive without needing an SRE to worry about DDoS attacks, etc) outweighs the general negative possibility of them being a potential single point of failure
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It doesn't need to be. We serve past cloudflare to trusted ip ranges.
We use their CDN, and they do our load balancing for work and they’re great at it.
There are benefits and costs. Cloudflare makes it easy to maintain high uptime as a small site sysadmin at the cost of free DDoS protection isn't actually free. Cloudflare turns all users of websites that employ it into the products of surveillance capitalism
I am baffled seeing so much cloudflare fanboys here...
Cloudflare is everywhere, it sees everything, it holds everything, it has private keys for tons and tons of websites, it's subject to the absence of any privacy law in the US, but they are "nice". Wow.
Google also was nice. It used to give you good results. Twitter also was nice.
"So you solved the catcha, ok, we don't care anyway."
"Solve 5 more because you're using a vpn."
Honestly, I don't know how any end user who doesn't understand IT and wasn't around before services like Cloudflare were available can say this. They objectively don't have the information or experience to make the claim.
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203 upvotes, 202 downvotes. The most controversial lemmy post I've ever seen
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Cuckflare: host loves it, everyone else hates it
I hopped in this thread then shortly thereafter got redirected to a cloudfare bad gateway page. It's a conspiracy.
don't listen to the nerds, cloudfare is trying to steal your soul and sell it to the Big Capybara industry.
One more head of Hydra. Espionage System built by the big techs
To all the upstart website-havers: no, you probably don't actually need to use cloudflare
I really think that on the list of worst single points of failure, DNS is not one of them. Given how easy it is to actually switch. And given that cloudflare outages are not nearly as common, The times they do happen usually are only for half an hour or so.
Literally trying to figure out if Cloudflare or tailscale would be the best way to go. The memes have spoken
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