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The Witcher Voice Actor Doug Cockle Calls AI 'Inevitable' but 'Dangerous' (www.ign.com)
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[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

filling in background, NPC voices, and things like that, which is unfortunate because those voices were all human beings at one point

Do i want AI to replace human voice actors? Of course not.

But there's no universe where NPCs were ever going to have more than 3 voiced lines repeating over and over about an arrow to the knee or something.

AI would give developers almost infinite variety of inane NPC chatter to make the world more realistic. Thats probably where i would draw the line at using AI. Filling in little world details that nobody would otherwise have time/money to fill in

Or in other words, AI should add something to a game, not give the same amount of content using fewer human minds and hands

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I could see someone using AI to make some incredible mods for games like Skyrim and Fallout.

[–] casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Only a matter of time. LLMs can already be implemented locally with less than 3GiB RAM and should be capable enough for simple dynamic inter-NPC dialogue. Not sure how much would be needed for the voice synthesis though.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

The way these things go, probably less.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

There's a few videos of people doing just that, Skyrim is a great game to test that on, since there's so much lore within the game to feed the AI.

[–] OnlyTakesLs@sh.itjust.works -2 points 11 months ago

They already do, via the Bandit Lines Expansion mod

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Voice AI isn't going to replace all voice actors, and it won't clone many specific people. Those are boring uses.

Voice AI is going to let a voice actor sound like anyone or anything... including people who do not exist. Because remember, these are fictional characters. Nobody plays Geralt, onscreen, in the Witcher games. Or if you like: Geralt is roughly modeled on some guy's appearance, and acted out by a multitude of dudes covered in ping-pong balls. He's a Geralt gestalt.

And he could be even less, if artists modeled and animated him without any "performance capture." Like how nobody plays a cartoon character, onscreen.

Voice AI allows artists to invent audio the same way they can invent video. There might be more artists involved. Each of them churning out a whole library of voiced text for no-name NPCs. Honestly that'd be a pretty great way to recognize a dev team: make each of them a background nobody inside the world they've created, with any ridiculous details they want to throw in.

There will be no need to schedule a recording booth and approve every line months in advance. They can half-ass a take into their headset mic, tweak the machine's output vaguely resembling their voice, and call it good. If the writers ever want to change something later on... they don't need that exact person, in order to redo the lines. The differences might be noticeable. But probably less so than any two people doing Donald Duck.

[–] wolfshadowheart@slrpnk.net 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Damn. You just made me realize some of the scope of background interest - that's the sort of thing that Skyrim, GTA V, and Cyberpunk 2077 like to claim about NPC's existing in a living breathing world on their own schedules.

You ever think about all the lives of the individuals next to you on the freeway? How all their lives are as complicated as our own? We don't have that in games right now because it's so complex and needlessly complicated for so little return.

But man, imagine a Shadow of Mordor connected NPC world. Friend groups, rivals, coworkers, bar patrons, they all have individuality that could affect other elements of the social game.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

"Sonder" is the two-dollar word.

And yeah, current tech isn't exactly good enough to propose a... David Cage roguelike, or whatever. Or GTA: Dwarf Fortress. Having those systems running all the time would be ridiculous, and worse, boring. But offline LLMs are definitely good enough to backfill details for any characters you do interact with. Like how Shadow of Mordor opportunistically promotes generic NPCs to rivals. Someone you drive past once doesn't need a whole backstory and social network. But if you run them over, the game can give them a whole family, made-up on the spot. That part's pretty easy. Making it interesting is the trick - and even if motives and consequences are shallow dice rolls, a modern chatbot can dress them up convincingly.