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[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 56 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This seems like a win for privacy. Modern cars collect a creepy amount of data often without the users knowledge or the ability to opt out. This article makes it seem like some car manufacturers are no longer selling the data, but I’m not sure how true that is.

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

More likely they're looking to exploit it directly, rather than sell it to a third party.

[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 19 points 5 months ago

I assume the primary market for this is insurance companies who salivate at any data they can use to justify a rate hike. Secondarily advertisers, but they probably wouldn’t pay nearly as much since they have all sorts of data sources to pick from.

[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 26 points 5 months ago

Rest in piss

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

Let’s not create a disincentive for people to use their brakes.

[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If my current car ever breaks down and repair isn't an option, I'll spend whatever many days it takes me to rip out all the trackers, microphones, interior cameras and antennas in my new car.

this is also the main reason I'll not switch to an EV, they're all full of spyware. This shit needs to be illegal.

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Doesn’t matter if it’s an EV or not. Most modern cars have over a dozen SIM cards throughout their various components that report back data to their individual manufacturers.

[–] HangingFruit@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] accideath@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Sadly only anecdotal aka my dad’s collegue, who works for the Bavarian state office for IT security and previously, like my dad, worked in the automotive industry.

Edit: typo

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 5 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Verisk, which had collected data from cars made by General Motors, Honda, and Hyundai, has stopped receiving that data, according to The Record, a news site run by security firm Recorded Future.

While the data was purportedly coming from an opt-in "Smart Driver" program in GM cars, many customers reported having no memory of opting in to the program or believing that dealership salespeople activated it themselves or rushed them through the process.

GM quickly announced a halt to data sharing in late March, days after the Times' reporting sparked considerable outcry.

GM had been sending data to both Verisk and LexisNexis Risk Solutions, the latter of which is not signaling any kind of retreat from the telematics pipeline.

LexisNexis' telematics page shows logos for carmakers Kia, Mitsubishi, and Subaru.

Disclosure of GM's stealthily authorized data sharing has sparked numerous lawsuits, investigations from California and Texas agencies, and interest from Congress and the Federal Trade Commission.


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