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[–] UnpopularCrow@lemmy.world 164 points 3 months ago (11 children)

While I understand people’s initial reaction to think this is a positive thing, I don’t believe it is. The less free speech and media the Russian people have access to, the more control Putins propaganda machine has.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 37 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Practically all russians have had access to fully uncensored YT just one click away on their smartphones for over a decade (until today).

That didn't really change anything. Russia's problems lie in the attitude of the overwhelming majority of its people, not in the lack of access to information.

They make a conscious and fully informed choice to be genocidal imperialists and embrace authoritarianism.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 75 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (27 children)

Russia's problems lie in the attitude of the overwhelming majority of its people, not in the lack of access to information.

They make a conscious and fully informed choice to be genocidal imperialists and embrace authoritarianism.

"they"?

what happens to dissidents in Putin's Russia? It's easy to criticize a repressed population when you're not risking anything.

were all U.S. citizens responsible for the invasion of iraq? In U.S. where you don't disappear for criticising the government and it's choices, what difference did that freedom of speech make for Iraqis?

Where in the so called "west" do people keep buying from Putin's Russia through cloaked trade?

while we're on the subject of "genocidal imperialists embracing authoritarianism", who are the greatest sponsors of one of the longest running apartheid regime? Is "the attitude of the overwhelming majority of its people" the cause of this genocidal apartheid?

nuances! "Overwhelming majority" is just trying to get by. Most people are not power hungry psychopaths. If Putin, Netanyahu and some more of their ilk died today, world would be a better place tomorrow.

fuck this! it's time to go offline and read a decent book.

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[–] UnpopularCrow@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago (9 children)

I don’t think a grassroots revolution will be taking place anytime soon, but this is aimed at the young people of Russia who are against the war. The old people there love Putin but I suspect they also aren’t watching YouTube.

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[–] BelatedPeacock@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Not a Russian political expert, but the fact Putin keeps calling it "denazification" and a "special military operation" leads me to believe there's a lot of people who don't support a full blown war.

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[–] tenchiken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago

Yeah... I suspect it has something to do with controlling info on Ukraine pushing back perhaps.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 5 points 3 months ago

Same difference. They won't do anything about it anyway.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

Is this a new development? If so could it be due to the Ukrainian incursion? I thought telegram was more popular there for that stuff

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[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 58 points 3 months ago (2 children)

damn. how would russians watch unwanted ads now?

[–] EisFrei@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)

AFAIK they didn't have to watch ads since the sanctions took effect, because Google wasn't allowed to monetize them.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Wow. Can't wait for this empire to sanction itself.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Prime, Netflix, Hulu, any news website, pornhub, etc...

[–] levzzz@lemmy.world 54 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Russian here. Yes, this is indeed true. They've been throttling the bandwidth for a good while before, even yt music was slow. GoodbyeDPI lets you bypass the blocks for now. Idk what to expect next tbh

[–] mkuznetsoff@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Ого не знал что кто-то из русских здесь есть:)

[–] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

нас дюжины! дюжины!

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[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Putin's fight against reality continues. Who will be the victor?

[–] kenkenken@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago

Putin is reality.

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[–] gh0stcassette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Is this the Russian Government censoring them, or is YouTube just pulling out because the sanctions mean they can't run ads to Russian IPs?

[–] FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 3 months ago (2 children)

the biggest ISP in Russia, rostelecom, started throttling youtube by 80% last month and is planning a full blocking. It's a curious choice though... even the hardest most Z people are not happy about it.

[–] MCasq_qsaCJ_234@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 months ago (4 children)

It is a double-edged sword, because it would leave them blind to certain news without propaganda. Which could have direct and indirect consequences.

[–] FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago

there is a browser extension that loads websites without middleman interference, a lot of people are using that. apparently it even unblocks twitter and some other sites.

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[–] Mistic@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The government claims it's Google's hardware getting outdated. Google says that's bs.

I think that it's convenient how they're telling that to us right before throttling YouTube only with certain providers (and seems to be with only certain regions as well).

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 3 months ago

this is terrible news for right wing reactionary youtube channels.

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Wasn't Russia throttling YouTube bandwidth before hand to prepare for this? Along with banning cell phones for their soldiers, I guess they're going for complete media blackout and control.

Edit: I guess they announced 70% slowdown a couple weeks ago and just went straight to full shutdown.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 12 points 3 months ago

Banning cell phones for soldiers on the front line has become common since the phone transmissions are used as bombing targets.

However, the blackout of YouTube for the civilian populace is mainly for control purposes, especially as Ukraine is fairly active on YouTube.

[–] Cyberjin@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Thought it has already banned? Thought they had the same view as Chinese government to limited information so they can better brainwash people in Russia with propaganda.

[–] peregrinetech@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

And I really liked the Russian Youtubers... Nonetheless, it's a different kind of censorship and it might just lead to more propaganda...

[–] digredior@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 3 months ago

Because fuck ‘em, that’s why!

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 months ago

That's what you get. Ukraine doesn't have access to YouTube either thanks to the rolling blackouts. So... I guess cry more? Or if you're Russian and reading this, and you want change for your country: realize you are many, they are few, and the few they have aren't currently as strong as they were before your country illegally invaded Ukraine. It won't be easy but maybe you and your brethren can secure a safer future for your children, those children, and all the children you will never meet, by rising up against your oppressors

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