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Brazilian court orders suspension of Elon Musk’s X after it missed deadline
(www.theguardian.com)
sounds feasible except the "blocking the use of vpn apps" part?
this post was submitted on 30 Aug 2024
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Yeah, that line was particularly concerning. I'm all for watching Elon get a Brazilian beatdown, but that feels like a pretty large overstep.
Justice Moraes had also said that any person in Brazil who tried to still use X via common privacy software called a virtual private network, or VPN, could be fined nearly $9,000 a day. But after swift backlash across Brazil, including from academics who have supported him, he reversed that move in an amended order late Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/30/world/americas/brazil-elon-musk-x-blocked.html
Good to see someone listening to people more knowledgeable than them.
He went back on that part (in Portuguese):
At best that’s just unclear. Blocking VPNs isn’t impossible, just impractical. And it’s not like Brazil just became China. At worst, the just made accessing X impracticality expensive for its users— which, in Brazil, is a lot of people. In typical Brazilian fashion, they’re hitting Elon in the wallet.
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Yeah, this left a bad taste.
At least he revoked this section of the decision a couple hours later.
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When you’re too corrupt, even for Brazil, that really does say something.
They're more WhatsApp people than Twitter people anyway.
But this is pretty standard legal stuff. Musk just doesn't think he has to send a lawyer down to argue his case. He can blow it off, thinking that he's simply above the law.
It isn't even corruption, per say. It's just entitlement slamming into another state's basic sovereignty.
They're more WhatsApp people than Twitter people anyway.
I thought they are orkut people?
Orkut lmao that’s a deep cut. Remember my Brasilian friend growing up using it and I was like wtf is this.
Well, maybe I’m just too GenX, but, to me, that’s a distinction without a difference. WhatsApp is texting with extra steps, and Twitter is for Nazis. I’ve never used the former and gave up the latter along with FB and insta early on during covid. Reddit was my last social whatever, and I jumped that ship last June for this last shout.
I’ve never had tiktaky or snapsnore. Most of my time on my phone is spent either here or listening to news podcasts— which is pretty much what I did as a teenager: listening to NPR as my morning routine then a news/music mix throughout the day.
Hmmm…. How unusual and a little confusing to be both impressed and disappointed in oneself… well that’s why some of our best paid scientists are furiously genetically engineering new strains of cannabis! So I don’t have to deal with this shit!
WhatsApp is texting with extra steps, and Twitter is for Nazis.
No shortage of Nazis on Whatsapp. And not the Discount Donny Groypers, either. Real Boys From Brazil. People with an actual Nazi pedigree.
How unusual and a little confusing to be both impressed and disappointed in oneself
Eh. We all eat from the trough of ideology.
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You know how Americans have ZERO base to stand on talking about other countries anymore? Didn’t get the memo? You guys are the bottom of the barrel now in every aspect. Sheesh.
Spread it to Everybody from Brazil: Leave Xitter, JOIN MASTODON!
How to join Mastodon:
There is some misleading information in there. Probably better to just get straight to the point with the 'standard' https://joinmastodon.org/ link.
I think that site has incorrect information. They wrote "you need to sign up separately on every server on Mastodon to see their community posts" but surely that's the opposite of what the fediverse is about? Mastodon's server page even says that with a single account you can see everything.
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People seem to be going to bluesky, even the president is there
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Obrigado
Tchau, Elon
"Alexandre de Moraes, the court’s top judge, has also ordered daily fines for people or businesses in Brazil that use virtual private networks (VPNs) or other methods to access X while the site is banned in the country"
how do they imagine vpn's work down there in ole brazil
Individuals will be nigh impossible to properly handle, but a registered business with a known presence on X won’t be difficult at all.
They aren’t saying they will fine for the use of VPNs, but the continued use of X through alternative means.
They thankfully went back on the decision of blocking vpn
To be fair, X didn't "miss the deadline".
They never gave a shit in the first place.
Wait, there are 20,000 ISPs!?
idk where that number came from, but there's a survey from 2022 listing 11,630 providers. That would average 2.08 per municipality and makes sense imo. The larger-scale telecom infrastructure is still an oligopoly though.
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Good
So if you’re are Brazilian nazi, go get a Windows phone
Late on Friday afternoon, Justice Alexandre de Moraes – who has been engaged in a dispute with X’s owner, Elon Musk, since April
A Justice isn’t in a dispute with anyone, Guardian. A Justice rules based on law. In the case of Brazil, the Justice system is based on Roman law, as opposed to Common law that is in effect in UK and USA. That means a judge has even less power, as they are tied to existing legislation and can’t rule unless there’s a specific codified law that allows them to rule in that way for that crime or misdemeanor.
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