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[–] ettyblatant@lemmy.world 142 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I worked with someone who did this. It was the HR person. She just didn't show up one day, didn't answer her phone or door. For a solid week. After a wellness check by the police, it was revealed that she was fine, just couldn't go back in to work because she hated her job so much.

I was young, and it was a shitty grocery chain filled with shitty management and shitty customers. I 100% thought she had killed herself, or skipped town for some other awful reason. It was a relief to hear she was OK. Fuck that store.

[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Are you ok yourself? Do you still work there?

You sound like a good person, wish you two were friends so she might not be as depressed.

[–] ettyblatant@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

I am in a much better environment! This was about 10 years ago, and that particular store closed. I also ghosted that job. They had been harassing my trans coworker friend so we just stopped showing up. They did NOT try to call me :)

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This guy fucks, what a kind soul

Don't you ever stop being you, you're needed.

[–] match@pawb.social 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

what if we organized the workers but instead of striking we all just don't show up and gaslight the regional management into thinking everything's fine

Because the store management isn't going to organize with us rabble. It's also hard to mimic the hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars worth of sales that regional looks at in their accounts. Pulling the wool over their eyes on that level is getting into bank fraud territory, and would require the aid of, and not just also not showing up, of bank workers.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 79 points 2 months ago (2 children)

people think I died

receives flowers

Checks note that came with them

"Get well soon."

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Maybe they didn’t actually think you died, and you’re just making bold assumptions.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

It's not wise to make fun of zombies.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 67 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That reminds me when I missed the first day of teaching because of a really bad flu causing me to lose track of the dates, I got a very concerned call from my advisor who thought I offed myself. Apparently not too uncommon for underpaid adjunct professors, unfortunately.

[–] Anamnesis@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When I was in grad school I knew a guy who just simply didn't teach for half the semester. No contact with students, no classes held, just didn't show. He gave everyone a passing grade on the midterm and came back halfway through. No explanation. He was not fired. Of course, like the rest of us, he was grossly underpaid and didn't have health insurance. I guess they get what they get if they're gonna treat us like cogs, right?

[–] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Sometimes I wonder how people get away with stuff like this. I recall that story from Spain, I think, where a guy was getting a paycheck for like 20 years but not working at all. I guess they did a reorg and his new 'boss' didn't know about him and he never got work assigned and he just stopped showing up...for years.

It has to be a pointless job to start with, right? If I just didn't work at my job for a week it would probably get noticed. If I no-showed completely it certainly would.

I'd probably be given the benefit of the doubt for a few weeks if I just stopped producing work. I could maybe make it a month before someone said something about my performance but only because sometimes the things I work on take a while to come to fruition. And missing meetings isn't uncommon because of conflicts/being super busy.

Id probably also get the benefit of the doubt if I no-showed too. But after a two days they'd call my wife or come by my house, or send the police department to my house to check on me.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 62 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is advanced ghosting.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

It’s proactive.

I ghost people before they even don’t give me their number.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 37 points 2 months ago (3 children)

3 month bullshit for resign? What kind of work contract is that?

[–] Draghetta@lemmy.world 62 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Let me introduce you to Europe

[–] oce@jlai.lu 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

To be fair this is a counterpart for being harder to get fired compared to some USA states. It makes the economy less fast to adjust but it makes people's life less stressful.

[–] Draghetta@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago (2 children)

IDK my man, having three months of forewarning for resignation sounds pretty cool to me. I don’t really see it as a downside. Especially in Italian law, where you can avoid making things awkward by agreeing with your employer to make the resignation time as short as you both want, as long as those three months are paid out. Blessed.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It could make you miss you a job opening that needs someone earlier. Hadn't have the issue myself, but I guess it happens.

[–] Draghetta@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If you’re hopping within the country, usually the local culture is adapted. I never had issues with it, employers expect you to have a resignation period.

Plus as I was saying companies don’t really like to have a working quitter, so they will usually negotiate for that time to be shortened. Maybe one month so you can transfer your knowledge to somebody else, then you’re out - with the three months money, naturally.

[–] zout@fedia.io 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Three months would be excessive in the Netherlands. The legal minimum is one calendar month. When you resign you can always negotiate to shorten the period, but most of the time people will work the remainder of the contract. Also, your new employer might actually think there is something wrong if you can quit your current job faster than the one month.

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[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Europe's economy is like an old Volvo. It's slow but full of safety features in case your hit something. USA's economy is like a classic Ford Mustang. It goes really fast on the straight but when you hit a bump things can go horribly wrong quickly. ~Mark Blyth

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Depends on the country. Where I live, the maximum permitted by law is 30 days (unless both the employer and the employee agree on a different termination period). That goes for both firing and quitting.

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[–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't know what are you talking about. In my country the standard is two weeks and max one month in special cases. I've participated in the hiring of multiple people from different European countries and they never asked for more than one month to join in, except when they wanted to relocate.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

In France, the standard for software engineers is 3 months. Verified with this official source https://code.travail.gouv.fr/outils/preavis-demission. With convention "Bureaux d'études techniques, cabinets d'ingénieurs-conseils et sociétés de conseils".

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I have 6 months in Germany, all managers at my company get this. I find it a bit too much, but it can usually be negotiated

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It is actually really nice.

It works both ways, if they fire you, you still have a job for 3 months at least. Giving you plenty of time to find a new job. You also get half a day per week (paid) to use for soliciting other companies.

Generally it is more devastating to lose your job than it is to lose an employee. Since you have plenty of other employees who can temporarily fill in, while you generally have only one job that pays for everything you do.

[–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Maybe this is a difference between countries, but is fired for cause and laid off treated different? Like I can understand and appreciate the protections if your position is eliminated or something. In the US we have unemployment insurance where you can get I think 3/4 of your normal pay if laid off. But if you get fired for cause then you're on your own.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, why you got fired does not in fact affect your need to eat food and house your family, so it's not a factor.

And if you are "laid off", ie the company says they don't need your job anymore, you are usually entitled to a pretty nice redundancy payment too - plus the usual.

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[–] zout@fedia.io 9 points 2 months ago

I live in the Netherlands, and fired for cause is very hard over here. Basically the employer needs solid evidence of misbehaviour, and even then most judges will still rule in favour of the employee.

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[–] szczuroarturo@programming.dev 8 points 2 months ago

Thats how it works in apparently most of europe. In poland for example its based on your tenure. With 3 month being the max after you work there for more than 3 years. If you are not important enough for the company and want to start your new work earlier it can be negotiated down i think.

[–] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I ran away from my site like this one day. I was working as an Engineer Trainee. No one gave a damn. Eventually, I returned after a month or so. Resigned in less than one month after returning. Man, I hate this country with a passion where you are not even treated as a human being, but as a machine.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You were able to leave your job for a month, come back and continue like nothing happened, then were able to resign a month after that...and you are saying you weren't treated like a human?

Yeah, that company is really tolerant. I'm guessing OP could've negotiated a sabbatical with people that lax.

[–] Fox@pawb.social 4 points 2 months ago

Average .ml take

[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 2 months ago

Which country? (I would guess Mali since you're using a .ml domain... 😉)

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Many years ago, a woman that worked at the same place, just didn't turn up one day. I think they (the closest thing we had to HR at the time) let this slide for a week, then called her. She just said "Oh, I didn't work to work there any more".

I don't think they pursued it any further and let it at that.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I just don't understand that mentality. You burn a bridge, when you could just send an email or something saying you quit and keep the possibility of coming back sometime open. Or if your boss actually liked you, you could have gotten a recommendation, but instead decided to make their life suck.

Just send an email saying you quit, it's really not that hard.

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[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just show up at your own wake like Beerfest and everything will be fine.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

Even better would be to wear a disguise and speak at your own funeral

[–] Rookwood@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago
[–] Gork@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Florists hate this one trick.

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[–] SsxChaos@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

R.i.p anon your green text will be remembered

[–] punkwalrus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I had an assistant who didn't really need the job, but her parents forced her to have one. She was the youngest, and only girl, of a family of 5 siblings. All her older brothers worked at the race track that their family owned, and she was dating someone they didn't approve of. I liked her boyfriend, he seemed friendly and soft-spoken, but her folks were like "if you're going to date whom you want, you better have a job and live on your own." Well, one day, she got mad because I asked her to work a shift she didn't want to. So she simply didn't show up, which really fucked me over. So I called her up, pretty pissed. No answer.

She didn't show up for 3 days. So I fired her for job abandonment. She didn't really need the job, right? Her parents owned a racetrack.

A week later, her folks called me, and asked if I'd seen her. No, she didn't show up for work ever again. They panicked. "OMFG WE DON'T KNOW WHERE SHE IS!" They immediately assumed her BF kidnapped and/or murdered her. The police were called, an investigation was opened up. Her BF's address showed he'd moved away. I had to sit with the police and go through an interrogation about her last whereabouts. She became a missing person, and once a week for two months, her parents called and asked if I had heard anything. The detective called with more questions. Then her car was found in an impound lot: it had been abandoned and looted in a New Jersey parking garage. Then the calls petered off and stopped.

A year went by, and I assumed the worst.

One day, one of the employees in another store in the mall told me he saw her with her BF. I didn't believe them, but then other people said that they'd seen her, and corroborated some stories she told them. Apparently, she had been planning to run away for some time, and just ran away with her BF and went NC with her family. That didn't work out so well, because both had trouble finding jobs and then their car got carjacked. Both of them were forced to return home, and her parents were forced to reconcile that she was never going to leave her BF.

I was pretty pissed, though, that I thought she was dead.

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