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Ding Ding Ding

It comes down to this, the heavyweight desktop championship between two powers in the Linux world.

In the blue corner, we have the mighty KDE, KDE comes with a wealth of customization options and good features with every update. It serves a nice alternative to windows 10 or 11s desktop and itself as an OS.

KDE has got so good that even legendary distro, Fedora, wishes to use it in its dealings.

In the grey/black corner, we have GNOME, This is a heavy distro with some ram usage, but it strives to be a simple desktop for usage and has had some good features every new version it comes packaged in as well.

GNOME has had a long history much like KDE, But controversial changes from its older brother.

However.. big name distros like Ubuntu have used it across millions of machines in different sectors.

What desktop do you favour and why? Explain your thoughts.

Round 2... GO!

Ding

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[–] Shareni@programming.dev 7 points 1 hour ago

KDE no doubt. GNOME is a minimalist that depends on extensions to provide basic functionality, while also being a giant fatass. KDE works from the install, provides a sensible workflow, and has better tools.

But I'd only use KDE on a rolling release or a 6 month release schedule distro. Their approach to development really doesn't suit stable ones.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 hour ago

KDE.

I won't use gnome (I've mentioned elsewhere), and unsurprisingly I just dont like it either. The design choices are restrictive, the environment is oversimplified - its just not for me.

Ive used lots of DEs over the years, even fvwm95 (the original, its neat that some folks have updated it though), and at this point if its a desktop its getting KDE.

[–] Karmmah@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I only have experience with Gnome out of the two but I haven't had the urge to switch yet. I like the look of it (I like that it looks different to Windows), the simplicity and the customisation with extensions (only a few and small ones, I recently started using OpenBar for some customization but I could do without). I keep my system rather minimal and I am not looking to put a lot of time into theming or customization.

I also tried Cosmic and I like the tiling aspect of it, but I also don't feel the need to switch. Maybe once it is released and I can figure out how to install it on Aeon.

[–] AnEilifintChorcra@sopuli.xyz 11 points 4 hours ago

I'm pretty biased since I have been using KDE for a few years and only switched to Gnome this week to properly try it out so maybe I'll change my mind but I doubt I will.

IMO KDE has better theming and is more uniform across a wider variety of apps. It has support for community themes out of the box and it feels like the components are modular so you can have a different colour title bar compared to the app window etc

  • Dolphin > Nautilus
  • Kate > Gedit
  • Konsole > Terminal

These are the 3 main default apps I use on both DEs. Dolphin has way more customisability and looks better but Nautilus has a fantastic multi-file rename with the option for find and replace built in.

For me, Kate is like the vlc of documents. It will open anything and everything whereas I've had a couple of "could not open" errors from gedit this week. I also prefer Kate to Vscode.

Konsole by default switches tabs with ctrl tab but Terminal doesn't and thats basically my only issue with it.

Gnome seems to still require you to install a browser extension to use Shell Extensions.

KDE widgets are fantastic, I love having system monitors in a hidden panel at the top of my screen so I can really easily check system resource usage. I haven't found anything similar on Gnome yet.

KDE Connect is such a brilliant app, it wouldn't launch for me on Gnome but there is GSConnect for Gnome but its a 3rd party app

By default on KDE, if you shake your mouse the cursor gets bigger and there doesn't seem to be a size limit which is so fun to do lol

Going from Plasma 5 to 6 was a nightmare for me but its probably because I was using EndeavourOS so the updates were sooner and more frequent.

Overall I think Gnome looks and feels a bit outdated and clunky and KDE looks and feels more modern with better integration across apps but that might just be QT vs GTK

I do plan on continuing to use Gnome for at least another 2 months to give it a fair try but I will almost always recommended KDE because I prefer the look and feel

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

My standard position is that GNOME is good, if you want to just use an existing workflow, whereas KDE is good, if you're looking to create your own workflow or you're fine with a mediocre, familiar (Windows-like) workflow.

But unfortunately, GNOME is really disappointing in some ways. Every so often, we have someone at work accidentally using it, because it's the default, and they always run into the same nonsense, like not being able to type a file path into the file manager, or not being able to give a name to the file they're trying to save. These are pretty bad problems that normal users are quick to encounter. It's a mystery to me, why these can't be fixed, but ultimately I just tell people to install KDE and they've all been happy about it.

[–] lancalot@discuss.online 8 points 4 hours ago

Initially, I was drawn to KDE Plasma for familiarity. Therefore, when installing Linux for the first time, I chose a distro with KDE Plasma. Which happened to be Fedora Kinoite 35, a very new distro at the time. It was clearly buggy and after fiddling with it for some time, I just had to rebase to Silverblue (and GNOME) for the lack of alternatives.

Thankfully, I actually happened to really like GNOME. This was on a laptop and GNOME's touchpad gestures just felt very satisfying and intuitive; much better than anything else I had experienced before. Its (intended) workflow also made a lot of sense that way.

GNOME has really grown on me ever since. And while I've revisited KDE Plasma to see what I was supposedly missing out on, I simply stuck to GNOME as it felt cleaner and more elegant.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

As GNOME gets ready to strike, KDE appears to start studdering... What is going on over there?? Is that the KDE baloo file indexer starting up? Oh no! A perfect connect as KDE falls to the ground!!

Oh what's this - GNOME seems to be standing there idle. Did the boxing task get backgrounded? Heaven knows it's impossible to find the running programs on GNOME. KDE and GNOME are both tabbed out of the boxing window!

Let's take a look into the crowd.. MacOS seems to have left the building to refresh it's permissions, and Windows is still booting up the programs that all self updated post restart. XFCE is hanging out in the corner but is all out of sync due to poor refresh rates on X11. Hyperland seems to be bullying someone in the bleachers, but it's hard to see exactly what's going on there..

Ding ding ding

Looks like KDE is out! Baloo didn't finish in time for KDE to get up. Let's see what happens in round 2!

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

Hyperland seems to be bullying someone in the bleachers, but it's hard to see exactly what's going on there.

Report it is.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 hours ago

Linux desktop environments is the Trans rights of politics. Very easy to debate, everyone has an opinion, but not where the focus should be

Turns on reply notifications and sticks phone in butt

[–] Heavybell@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

KDE, because it's familiar yet customisable. Gnome is just too strange for me, and doesn't seem to allow me to un-strange it.

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago

Same. GNOME is too "appleish" for me. KDE customization is amazing.

[–] d4f0@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

I like both. I prefer KDE for keyboard and mouse use and GNOME for touchscreen use.

[–] Libb@jlai.lu 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

What desktop do you favour and why? Explain your thoughts.

Xfce & Cinnamon.

If I had to pick between KDE or Gnome, I would go KDE without any hesitation as I quite like it whereas I'm not really a fan of Gnome. Gnome UI is OK I guess, it's just the way they want to decide for everything I am not a fan of (After 35+ years using Apple, I did not switch to let anyone else decide for me ;). If I don't use KDE it's mostly because it requires too much work to "tone it down" and make it behave like I want my DE to. Out of the box, there is too much features I have to turn off and configure, features that are also spread between too many (and not all of them... obvious) menus/settings. What's great with KDE is that it's at all possible to configure all that, it's amazing. It's just too much for me. Be it XFCE (on Debian on my desktop) or Cinnamon (on Mint on the laptop) I barely need to change anything to have them do what I wish.

So, to summarize I would say it's my untamed laziness that dictates my choice of a DE :p

It's also the reason why I do not use one of those tiling WM I know exist and I know, as a user spending my time with my fingers on the keyboard, I would love to use in place of the standard floating windows. Alas, having them correctly configured and running, and then having to relearn decades old habits, would require a time and an energy I have no desire to spend. So, I don't. Still, I understand why some people like them so much ;)

edit: clarifications

[–] N0x0n@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

XFCE team here !!! Though I was kinda surprised they didn't enable XFwm (as stated by arch linux wiki) by default and had some strange issues with GTK apps (big black shadow arround apps). Took me some time to figure that out.

If I had to chose I would probably go for KDE. Gnome is great and it's nice to have alternatives that are so different and also up to date ! However, I hate GNOME's design choice. I hate my Mac and Gnome feels to similar to even bother with it.

[–] eugenia@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 hours ago

I use Mint with Cinnamon with the Cinnamenu menu (instead of the default ugly one). I'm able to make Mint to start up at 700 MB of RAM. On my fast desktop I have Debian Testing with Gnome 47, that one starts at 1.5 GB of RAM. I'm thinking of using Mint there too.