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[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

So are we just going to get an article from every other line in the hl2 documentary?

[–] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 hour ago

News are slow. The milkman has to do work.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

So we ended up hiring most of the original Steam team from that other company to build initially this sort of in-game advertising streaming model but then [Steam]

Wow it could have been so much worse

[–] trag468@lemmy.world 16 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I sent them an angry email when I bought my first house. I had purchased a physical copy of a game because I was waiting for my Internet to get turned on. I wasn't able to play because it required an internet connection to complete the registration. I was so mad. I told them I would never buy another thing from Valve. That turned out to be the lie of the century. I was super wrong and Valve has been a company you can be proud of for decades. I often think about what a jackass I was for sending that email.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 3 hours ago

I don't think you were a jackass. You purchased a physical copy and thus shouldn't need an internet connection to start your game (unless it's multiplayer only). It's crazy how easy it is for people to get used to new normals when it comes to things like this.

[–] FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca 38 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I remember hating the idea, during the age when games came in boxes. Now i support Steam with the tremendous support they've given the Linux platform. Most games i have are games on Steam, but i do have a bunch on GoG, as well as Itch.io. Don't keep all your eggs in one basket, but have to admit the Steam basket is humongous.

[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 14 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

GOG is pretty good but they have zero Linux support that I'm aware of. Had to return a game I bought off there last year. Bought it through Steam and it worked seamlessly.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Some of their games have Linux support but also it seems very much that they do not care about going out of their way for Linux so it gets forgotten about for most titles

[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

In GOG's defense, they don't have the resources that Steam does but it's still pretty annoying. I have no plans to personally seriously use Windows ever again for personal use but Linux desktop usage is low and not something I'd expect a company that's GOGs size to spend much time on yet. Steam can and does. I respect that a lot.

[–] weker01@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

GOG actually has a relatively good selection of Linux games.

[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

Relatively is the key word. I haven't had a serious issue with anything running on Proton and the way Steam implements it. I've had one issue out of one trying to play a game on GOG. Don't get me wrong, I think GOG is great though.

[–] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

Yeah I am old enough to remember it being just a launcher (ala Ubisoft or EA games) for Half life 2 and a way to counter-strike with no mods. TBH I thought it was gonna fail hard and then after a decade of success, even I was stuck on steam. Also to add originally they only sold valve games as literally no third party was willing to give them a cent and they were short on IP.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 35 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (6 children)

He's right. Everyone hated the idea of any always online DRM to play the disc you bought in a store. Steam backed off with options for a game to sometimes work offline and a pinky promise to free your games if Gaben died and the new owner decided you own nothing.

It's weird, people hate the current DRM system for games and love Steam. Yet it was Steam that pioneered it. If Steam failed, there's a chance we would still own games instead of them being tied to online DRM verification.

Steam is the benevolent dictator but that's not going to last forever.

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 hour ago

Games used stuff like cd keys and even pieces of paper that deciphered codes as DRM. DRM was always something sought after by companies. Just take a look at Sony rootkit scandal for music CDs.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 32 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

This is revisionist history. Steam was not the origination of DRM or even online DRM.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 27 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I remember, buy game. Enter CD key "key already taken" Return game "sorry, box is open we don't take media returns" Rage.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 hours ago

"Actually this disc is defective. I'd like to exchange it for a new one."

This trick will be useful if you ever go back to 1999.

[–] usrtrv@sh.itjust.works 22 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

No, that's what consumers like you are thinking in hindsight and unrelated.

The context Gabe is talking about is when he was approaching publishers. They were just being anti tech and believing in traditional brick and mortar. They were definently pro-DRM. They just couldn't fathom a digital marketplace.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe you weren't old enough to remember it, but people were pissed and swore they would forever boycott Steam when it released

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 hours ago

I indeed was one of them. Managed to boycott until left4dead2. Then i caved in. The war was lost anyway. And now i have easily put 5 figures into steam and own nothing.

[–] 100@fedia.io 13 points 5 hours ago

steam drm is the bare minimum license check and its not mandatory for anyone to implement in their game

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 12 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Steam is undoubtedly convenient.

But if any game you care about keeping is on GOG, it's a good idea to buy a copy on there, and then squirreling away the offline installer files/extracted game files somewhere safe.

[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

What a load of fucking shit. My "everyone" loved the fact that we didn't have to keep track of stupid garbage fucking DVDs and keep track of some license key.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That tracks, everyone still owned their games back then. At least Gaben got his 8 yatchs though.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 15 points 5 hours ago

Remember when you could sell games you'd never play again and people less fortunate than you could have their fun with them for a much lower price?